Odd verse for the entire congregation

[suzybeezy]

Our minister gave us "homework" today. We were told to look up Leviticus 19:28 when we got home and read it. Well I did and I'm puzzled. Why were we given this verse? Is there something about this verse that I must be missing? It seems like such an odd verse to give the congregation as homework. Of course I can and will ask the minister, but thought it might be interesting to pick your brains as well.

Leviticus 19:28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

 

[royallighting7]

Our minister gave us "homework" today. We were told to look up Leviticus 19:28 when we got home and read it. Well I did and I'm puzzled. Why were we given this verse? Is there something about this verse that I must be missing? It seems like such an odd verse to give the congregation as homework. Of course I can and will ask the minister, but thought it might be interesting to pick your brains as well.

Leviticus 19:28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

I interpret this as meaning that Yahweh does not want his people to be like the neighboring nations who did this kinda stuff, hoping to invoke the dead by doing things like cutting and marking themselves.
Some Christians use this as scripture to support against getting tattoos. It hits home for me because I have tattoos, but they represent Christian values ( lion and cross), not marking myself for another god. It's puzzling, but the law was fullfilled by Christ, so i'm not too concerned. What do you think of the scripture?

 

[suzybeezy]

I'm just perplex why this verse was chosen as a "homework" for the congregation. It strikes me as odd. We have a pretty conservative church family, not many with tattoos or piercings or anything like that, while a few do, but not many. I thought when I got home to read the scripture it would be something different I guess. Then I started wondering if there's more to the verse then I'm understanding. Maybe that's the homework, to delve more deeply into its meaning.

 

[royallighting7]

I'm just perplex why this verse was chosen as a "homework" for the congregation. It strikes me as odd. We have a pretty conservative church family, not many with tattoos or piercings or anything like that, while a few do, but not many. I thought when I got home to read the scripture it would be something different I guess. Then I started wondering if there's more to the verse then I'm understanding. Maybe that's the homework, to delve more deeply into its meaning.

Idk why your pastor may have wanted you to do homework on it, but I interpret this and other laws that Yah gave Israel as Him being a jealous God and not wanting His people to resemble other nations. As Christians, we are to resemble Christ, not the world. There should be something different about us as we go throughout our growth process as Christians. That's not to say that every non-Christians is gonna make a big deal out of your difference, but we are not to do things as the world does. For example, Jesus said that the pagans are the ones who worry about things like clothes and stuff, but as Christians, we know that our Father has us taken care of.

 

[Goinheix]

I interpret this as meaning that Yahweh does not want his people to be like the neighboring nations who did this kinda stuff, hoping to invoke the dead by doing things like cutting and marking themselves.
Some Christians use this as scripture to support against getting tattoos. It hits home for me because I have tattoos, but they represent Christian values ( lion and cross), not marking myself for another god. It's puzzling, but the law was fullfilled by Christ, so i'm not too concerned. What do you think of the scripture?

Correct. The anciet peoples use tatoo and other body marks to signify that they belong to a given god (idol). Probably royallighting is correct on the invoking the dead.

Not correct in my opinion. In my opinion christians cant make christians tatooes. Making a christian tatoo is having Christ in the same level and status of an idol. Any way, we are suppose to not making images of God at all. Not only images of foreign idol but any image at all. Christians having old tatoo are OK (some how OK) but all christians shall be descouraged from making christians tatoo, and be warned of the situation.

 

[Incariol]

Our minister gave us "homework" today. We were told to look up Leviticus 19:28 when we got home and read it. Well I did and I'm puzzled. Why were we given this verse? Is there something about this verse that I must be missing? It seems like such an odd verse to give the congregation as homework. Of course I can and will ask the minister, but thought it might be interesting to pick your brains as well.

Leviticus 19:28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD.

It sounds like your pastor doesn't want people getting memorial tattoos or memorial scarring for the dead? Sounds strange, but it actually is fairly common, I know at least a few people who have tattoos for deceased relatives to whom they were particularly close.

 

[Goinheix]

Thanks an interesting thought about why the Jews were given the Law.
I believe it was to show them how wicked they really are seeing as how they can't possibly keep it. Your reason makes sense too.

do you tithe?

 

[Goinheix]

Tithe is to give to the Levites a % of the product of the land, because the Levy tribe did not recieve any land in property. The tithe had the porpose of supprting the Santuary/Temple and the service of sacrifices. After the cross, the need of sacrifice ended, and the early christians did never tithe.

Today, different denominations are teaching tithe as a christian doctrine (wich is not), including on it, not the product of the land, but all incomes.

What is surprising is that the same teacher that teaches not to observ any Moses Law, at the same time teaches to observ the Moses Law of tithing.

 

[suzybeezy]

Let's not get into a tiff guys I love your insights! Its really got my brain thinking and I'm doing more research and let's face it if that was what the homework was intended to do, its accomplished its mission.

 

[Goinheix]

Abraham did tithe to Melchisedek, a figure of Christ. Do we have to tithe to Jesus? If the answer is yes, then why do you tithe to the church instead of tithting to Christ?

believe me, there is no way you defend the false doctrine of tithe.

 

[heterodoxical]

Abraham did tithe to Melchisedek, a figure of Christ. Do we have to tithe to Jesus? If the answer is yes, then why do you tithe to the church instead of tithting to Christ?

believe me, there is no way you defend the false doctrine of tithe.

Paul collected money to the Churches, and said he was entitled to money / support from the Churches. I guess you no more than he did as well.

Mel wasn't a figure of Christ. He was Christ of a different age. Christ is a title, not a name.

If mel was tithed to, your comment tithing was only a levitical law, falls lame.

If Mel was tithed to,
and Christ's priesthood is of that Order, Mel's...
Then Christ's priesthood would be as entitled as Mel's was.

You would tithe to the Church because Christ is the Church. At least that's why my Bible says. YOur's seems pretty spotty.

Tithing is an act of faith, IF you tithe you will be rewarded ten fold, or so says malachi. Since you aren't forced to tithe, and you don't tithe, I guess it speaks of your faith, or lack of. It also shows of your lack of sincere thanks for His providence.

If you are that comfortable showing HIM how you feel in that way, The parable of the two men eating meat tells me not to get in your face on it. However, when you make claims counter to scripture, I am here watching.

bd

 

[heterodoxical]

Ummm, Big G, this may have to continue in PM. This might be the Forum I wasn't Xian enough to comment in, and my responses appear to be deleted so I think it was. I didn't mean to buck the system, but just put it together.

Enjoy.

bd

 

[visionary]

The pastor could be not wanting to weigh on a touchy subject for some of his congregation and thus gave it as homework while praying that it will bring conviction to the hearts of his congregation on the subject to that if/when it becomes a battle ground within the congregation... more people have been convicted of the truth contained within this verse and are already convicted to abide by its instruction.

 

[Goinheix]

Paul collected money to the Churches, and said he was entitled to money / support from the Churches. I guess you no more than he did as well.

That is an intentional lie. Paul did never collected money for the Churches. Paul did collect money only one time in his entire life; did it for only one church, did it in only one church, and did it for a very short time.

 

[Goinheix]

Mel wasn't a figure of Christ. He was Christ of a different age. Christ is a title, not a name.

This is not true.
There is, there have been only one Christ: Jesus. If you understand "christ" as the "ointed with oil", then there have been too many Ointed, commencing by Saul. Shall we do all and everything people did to all ointed?

 

[Goinheix]

If mel was tithed to, your comment tithing was only a levitical law, falls lame.

Tithe was a normal practice for all the ancient kingdoms of the wolrd. Centuries before Moses and centuries before Abraham, kings recieved tithe from the people of the kingdom. That dont make it a christian doctrine. Melchisedec was a king and he requested the tithe from Abraham a person living in his kingdom.

 

[Goinheix]

If Mel was tithed to,
and Christ's priesthood is of that Order, Mel's...
Then Christ's priesthood would be as entitled as Mel's was.

Melchisedec priesthood consisted in one man: himself. Christ priesthood consist in only one priest: Jesus Christ. How do I tithe to Jesus Christ? Because pastors are not priests of Jesus Christ.

 

[Goinheix]

You would tithe to the Church because Christ is the Church. At least that's why my Bible says. YOur's seems pretty spotty.

That is a lie.
Christ is not the Church. The Bible dont say that lie.

 

[jpcedotal]

stay on topic please....let this tithing rant go or start your on thread...sheesh

 

[Goinheix]

Tithing is an act of faith, IF you tithe you will be rewarded ten fold, or so says malachi. Since you aren't forced to tithe, and you don't tithe, I guess it speaks of your faith, or lack of. It also shows of your lack of sincere thanks for His providence.

Tithing is not an act of faith. That are your worlds, not the Bible. You have an absolutely lack of faith. Jasus told us dont to worrie for tomorrow, because God will provide for uas, since He care for us more than for a bird. You dont have faith and dont believe in Jesus and seek for economical security in Malachi, expecting with greed the ten folds.