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Observed evolution of organs??

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Why are you even playing with him when he moves the goalposts? If the only way he can avoid losing is to move the goalposts, he's already admitted defeat. he just doesn't want to stop.

I know, but I'd like to know for myself as well. Im sure theres something but I cant find anything, but Im probably looking in the wrong place. I can show fossils of course, talk about what evolution says about how organs developed etc, but I would like to point out the experimental research like we've seen with speciation.
 
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Here you go: Sea squirts developing fully functional two-chambered hearts. Admittedly, this was due to a gene being artificially shut off or being overexpressed, but since we know that genes do that on their own too, it doesn't have any impact on the process itself.
 
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Beat me to it. Yep, this one's neat because we've observed it happen in the present -- no "well fossils can be interpreted to say anything" bs allowed.
 
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Wow, that's cool. It smells like the sort of thing the book I've just read was talking about. Thanks for sharing
 
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Another good one would be the evolution of the mammalian ear from the reptile jaw. Go to talk.origins and have a look for Theobald's "29+ evidences for macroevolution".


Regards, Roland
 
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Here is an example. A population of lizards transplanted from one environment to another developed a new organ. From the article:

 
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Another good one would be the evolution of the mammalian ear from the reptile jaw. Go to talk.origins and have a look for Theobald's "29+ evidences for macroevolution".


Regards, Roland
The problem with that is it's mostly fossil evidence and that doesn't count as "observed" with creationists. You could of course refer to embryology... but I'm quite sure it's still not direct enough evidence for a goalpost-moving creationist.
 
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The problem with that is it's mostly fossil evidence and that doesn't count as "observed" with creationists. You could of course refer to embryology... but I'm quite sure it's still not direct enough evidence for a goalpost-moving creationist.
You are correct and yes, genetics/embryology does help. I believe the relevant parts of the reptile and the mammal ear have the same initial developmental pathways, or something like that, strengthening the case that they are almost certainly related.

I am unsure of the details though.


Regards, Roland
 
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