Observation on Scientism Evolution

[bhsmte]

It seems that though some may believe in evolution to a degree, that if we don't believe in it exactly as Scientism states it that we are deemed as "closed minded." I'll be Praying for you.

Why do you have to pray for him? Is it because he disagrees with you?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Oh, it was said that the ruins discovered dated back before the human kind we know of today exsisted. They then suddenly changed it around saying that the ruins where not ruins at all, but formations made by bacteria, not ruins made by human hands. The people suddenly changing this after discovering that it was built before the time of man that we know of today according to them seems suspicious.

Bacterial formations have distinct qualities, making this a poor excuse for trying to cover something up. Considering that Homo habilis utilized fire and other tools, it would be infinitely more interesting if building large structures predated humanity than if these were just the result of bacteria.

Seriously, there's no actual reason a hominid of another species besides ourselves couldn't have built structures out of stone before our species existed.

 

[xianghua]

Part One- Observation on Scientism Evolution

When I was going to junior college I ended up taking an Anthropology class. Though I'm a Christian, I went in with an open mind. We started out by discussing how evolution is a theory, what a theory is, and how to get one. We discussed human and non-human primates, which had me come out with more questions than I did answers. We talked about culture and anatomy in the primate as well as the prehistoric world. We may have also talked about the big bang and carbon dating. I had questions and some of the answers only came to me by assumption from the instructor which she would kindly tell me that these are only educated guesses, but she currently couldn't show me any solid proof. So, as I continued to take this class I really started to think about the lack of proof; the missing links, and archeological excavations. I started to think about the proof that they are seeking through these excavations that may be damaged, destroyed, didn't get the chance to fossilize, or never existed at all. We also as a class got to observe primate and early human skulls. As I was observing them I saw that most of them had cast bone replacements, so most if not all of them were broken, pieced together, and some had become possibly inaccurate specimens, because of how much bone was actually missing, and how much casting was done to them. It could have been done by scientist's bias and guess. From the specimens that may have been more well preserved, I may have seen how primates evolved and how humans evolved, but I didn't see where humans came from primates. What I saw is that their evolution was separate. There may have been adaption and breeding of the same species, but not one species becoming another species. They also presented to us a photograph of a specimen that looked like it had a body more like a human, but the head of any ape. For all I know, they could have constructed that specimen themselves or the possibility of it being a bipedal ape species that had gone extinct. We also discussed the genome between humans and Bonobos being 1.3% of a difference. While what we also discussed in this class was varients in human DNA, that if even the base of a DNA strand had the slightest difference is a major difference. So, in seeing this much of a difference in our chromosomes it makes oceans of a difference to the point that we are not the same species. As for the big bang and carbon dating, we were not there, so we don't have a base of when everything was created and time began. It got me questioning how carbon dating or any method of dating would work under these circumstances. There are also many different dating methods including carbon dating methods that all come up with different results. So, there is no accurate way of dating specimens. At the end of my own observations throughout this class, I looked at the picture of an orangutan skeleton and that of a human's pretending that I had never heard of Scientism Evolution, and I saw two completely different specimen. So, my conclusion on this was that you have to have faith to believe in evolution from a Scientism standpoint and that evolution may exist, but not in the way it is being taught or expressed by it's believers that treat it like it's a religion.

Part Two- Varient in News Article

It recently came to my attention that a news article in "The Guardian" talked about an underwater excavation find of an Ancient Greek city that was dated back way before the time of Troy, and before the timing of mankind according to Scientism evolution. This quickly changed; however, where they said that all of these ruins were not made by people as thought previously, but by bacteria. Which this new claim didn't make any sense as I looked at thier findings of a stairway and a handcrafted table or column base. Was this the work of historians, scientists, and politicians trying to cover this up, because it was an infraction on their evolutionary timeline? So, when it comes to the world of science, history, and politics it has me wondering what is real? Though no dating can be accurate it's the action that they took on this find that truly sparked my interest.

Part Three- America's rise to communism?

I have heard how past rulers have used atheism to influence people to question or let go of their beliefs in the way that they teach evolution. They push their agendas towards communism to make their rule easier to follow by wiping away the influence of God or any diety. This isn't necessarily saying that the people will bow down and worship their new leader though the leader may like, but to have no god at all will still make their reign much easier for them to rule and rid of anyone who doesn't follow. I remember when I was sitting in a class in middle school when we had our first day of basic anthropology and origin of creation. She asked us how everything was made. When I raised my hand and replied "God, Jesus", she told me "no" to both answers. I was shocked and outraged by her answer. That year in school after we took this class that stated that everything came from the big bang theory and evolutionary theory there were almost no Christians left. I see that our science classes are having an influence on our country when it comes to them teaching this more like religion, rather than it being a science, a theory. When in high school, I looked back on my years in school and noticed that the pledge of a alligence was said daily in my elementary years and only said once my entire senior year in high school. I thought that our country separated Church and state by not teaching religion in school, but classrooms are being taught Scientism evolution like it is a religion or at least their believers are treating it like one even to the point of ridiculing others who do not believe in it as fact, but chose to have faith in a more Creationism viewpoint instead. None of this makes sense to me since we have been fighting Communism and dictatoriships this whole time. I'm guessing after time going by and us separating from England the government is seeing that the time is right for the sake of power, control, and greed. Please Pray for us all, if this all be true.

Scopes Trial
Scopes Trial - Wikipedia

Ancient Greece Variant Article
Underwater 'ruins' off Greek island created by bacteria millions of years ago

Darwinism Use In Communism
The Darwinian Foundation of Communism

NOTE: This link above is not meant to discriminate any people in anyway, it's for the use of example only. This thread isn't meant to slam anyones beliefs, but to share my observation on Scientism Evolution and what I might see happening to the United States.

hi. i do think that we can prove that god exist. for example: lets say that we will find a robot with a living traits like self replication and DNA. if such organic robot is evidence for design then also human is evidence for design because they both shared the same traits.

about the ervs argument: its actually evidence against evolution because some creatures cant live with those ervs. if so how they evolve at the first place before they get infection? the logical conclusion is that the ervs are an integral part of the genome since is creation.

 

[Shemjaza]

hi. i do think that we can prove that god exist. for example: lets say that we will find a robot with a living traits like self replication and DNA. if such organic robot is evidence for design then also human is evidence for design because they both shared the same traits.

about the ervs argument: its actually evidence against evolution because some creatures cant live with those ervs. if so how they evolve at the first place before they get infection? the logical conclusion is that the ervs are an integral part of the genome since is creation.

That's as logical as saying that since we can find some puddles and lakes that were filled using water from hoses then it is logical that any foot prints we find around the edges must have been from the council workers who filled the lake.

Your "logic" does not flow:
If an example of X can be conceived of originating from Y,
the it is reasonable to assume that all X must come from Y

It's just silly.

 

[Speedwell]

hi. i do think that we can prove that god exist. for example: lets say that we will find a robot with a living traits like self replication and DNA. if such organic robot is evidence for design then also human is evidence for design because they both shared the same traits.

Such a robot would only be evidence of design if it bore traces of being produced by other than natural processes. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell whether it was designed or not.