Objective morality

[seeingeyes]

It helps to show the passage the thread was based upon.

The thread was based on "as you measure it, it will be measured to you", which I put in the OP. There are many parables with this theme, as it was a focal point of Jesus' ministry.

Makes me curious about the parallel and correlation with moral objectivity.


..."it comes down to the heart" is an aphorism really. Whose heart ?

In my case, my heart. In your case, your heart. "Out of the heart, the mouth speaks".

Heart as in emotions, feelings, passion ? Determination ?

Yes. Heart as in motivation. "Where your treasure is, your heart will be also."

Where is the center of heart-morality ? Why are some hearts God-like ?

Selflessness and love. Some people have a greater measure of this from birth. It is their gift. Others (ahem...like me!) have a much longer road. Always, it comes from our Father. "...whoever loves has been born of God and knows God."

God's laws cannot be changed by man, man simply lacks the power and authority to do so ! God' s ways (His nature) do not evolve or become less stringent or allow greater tolerance. This is the peril in subjectivity. Man wants to change God's laws to suit himself. Man does not want to be fenced in by God's restrictive commands, so man shakes his fist at God and mumbles something about freewill or "why have you made me thus" ? God never changes and neither does God's law, ordinances, commands, etc. What laws has man changed ? Rather, which laws does man believe God no longer enforces ?

Which laws?

 

[MoreCoffee]

I feel sorry for this topic; is certainly become a dead horse flogged to a pulp ... poor thing.

 

[ToBeBlessed]

I feel sorry for this topic; is certainly become a dead horse flogged to a pulp ... poor thing.

lol.

 

[NannaNae]

why does it only have to be grace or law?

I treat my body and or flesh like it is servant and under law.. so that sucker won't do death and kill my spirit..

I treat my spirit like it has no law.. and is only full of his grace..

learning the difference between my flesh and my spirit and his spirit is what takes sometimes years to figure out . making sure my flesh doesn't kill my spirit or his spirit in me is the real issue here and now.

sorry you can not treat your flesh with a kind of grace you hope he has for you .
or confine your spirit with laws made by men.
learning the difference takes time and is a process.
so hold in one hand that you are a son of a living God who is loving and awesome full of mercy and grace.. and in the other hand that you are a servant of the Most high and your flesh had better be deemed dead or you at least not meeting it's demands. .. because both extremes are 100 % true.