Obama's Christmas Tree graced by Chairman Mao, tranvestite

[JoyJuice]

I disagree with your assessment.

Rule number one of textual criticism; direct quotes take precedence over hear-say, specially when the hear-say contains open accusations by the author of alterations, as well as multiple translations of the hear-say that are not the same.

 

[DaisyDay]

A response to Jim Walker's "Hitler's Christianity" website

Hitler linked to Christianity
A. Hatred and fear of Christianity
A bias revealed
B. A lack of information
C. Illogical arguments
Other examples of strange logic
D. Misstatements of fact
Some digressions: 1. Hitler's Table Talk
2. Hitler's Henchmen and Nazi Sympathizers
3. Nazi photos
4. Nazi artifacts
The Holocaust and the Old Testament
The massacres of the Canaanites
The Nuremberg Racial Laws
Hitler's study notes on the bible
E. Ignorance of Christianity



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It's strange because he doesn't address the actual points Walker made.

 

[DaisyDay]

NO!!!! Hitler did not have a Christmas tree because he was not a Christian

But Obama has a Christmas tree....doesn't the Mao ornament (and the Hedda Lettuce one) negate having a tree?

 

[Grizzly]

No beliefs?? Well, clearly that Walker guy is a liar , since he is expressing a belief. Do you have anything from a non-liar?

Nope

 

[TerranceL]

Whose talking about Muhammad Ali? Hitler thought he was practicing his faith too.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)


I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


I thank Heaven that a portion of the memories of those days still remains with me. Woods and meadows were the battlefields on which the 'conflicts' which exist everywhere in life were decided.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Fate must bring retribution, unless men conciliate Fate while there is still time. How thankful I am today to the Providence which sent me to that school!
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Thus my faith grew that my beautiful dream for the future would become reality after all, even though this might require long years.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be 'discovered' by an election.
-Adolf Hitler with his twist on Mark 10:25 (Mein Kampf)


Protestantism as such is a better defender of the interests of Germanism, in so far as this is grounded in its genesis and later tradition; it fails, however, in the moment when this defense of national interests must take place in a province which is either absent from the general line of its ideological world and traditional development, or is for some reason rejected.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Thus, Protestantism will always stand up for the advancement of all Germans as such, as long as matters of inner purity or national deepening as well as German freedom are involved, since all these things have a firm foundation in its own being; but it combats with the greatest hostility any attempt to rescue the nation from the embrace of its most mortal enemy, since its attitude toward the Jews just happens to be more or less dogmatically established.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Verily a man cannot serve two masters. And I consider the foundation or destruction of a religion far greater than the foundation or destruction of a state, let alone a party.
-Adolf Hitler speaking like Jesus in Matthew 6:24 (Mein Kampf)

Heaven will smile on us again.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)




Should I go on?

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Will this get an actual response or will it continue to be ignored?

 

[Baggins]

I guess that means that you accept that he was a socialist as well.

A National Socialist

 

[Baggins]

Sorry, he was not a Christian. Deal with it.

Sorry he was:

deal with it

Photos

What do you think Kinder Kirche Kueche means James

 

[JBJoe]

It's strange because he doesn't address the actual points Walker made.

I think a lot of the rebuttal can be summed up with this bit:

A second element is (b) a lack of historical information. A great deal of attention is devoted to Hitler's words - little or nothing is said about what actually happened to the churches in the Third Reich, or about the intellectual background of National Socialism.

(Emphasis added.) So you apparently cannot use anything Hitler actually said to show he was a Christian. This sort of no-true-scotsman perspective can be extended to most anything. It doesn't matter what was said, what was believed, what pro-Christian slogans were emblazoned on uniforms... Because no true Christian would (insert dastardly deed here).

 

[jamesrwright3]

Sorry he was:

deal with it

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What do you think Kinder Kirche Kueche means James

Sorry, he was not. Please watch the BBC documentary. Hitler was not a Christian.

 

[Ayersy]

Sorry, he was not. Please watch the BBC documentary. Hitler was not a Christian.

Oh, snap. BBC knows everything, that's us done.

 

[tulc]

NO!!!! Hitler did not have a Christmas tree because he was not a Christian

Ahhh! That would be the part they left off of

22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance (and a Christmas tree): against such there is no law.
(phrase added)

tulc(suspects bumper stickers were in there also)

 

[rambot]

[hesitantly adding]Could it not be that Hitler was simply appealing to an aspect of the populus' psyche that he felt could be easily manipulated?[/hesitantly adding]

 

[USincognito]

What do you think Kinder Kirche Kueche means James

A cookie made with cherries and children?

Wait, maybe I translated that wrong...

 

[Baggins]

Sorry, he was not. Please watch the BBC documentary. Hitler was not a Christian.

What does Kinder Kirche Kueche mean James?

He said he was a Christian so he was a Christian, <staff edit> .
Deal with it, Hitler loved god as much as you do.

 

[jamesrwright3]

What does Kinder Kirche Kueche mean James?

He said he was a Christian so he was a Christian,<staff edit>.

Deal with it, Hitler loved god as much as you do.

Sorry, Hitler was not a Christian. The evidence does not support your position. The slogan you are citing was actually started under Keiser Wilhelm. Regardless, there is no evidence Hitler was a practicing Christian and plenty of evidence to the contrary.

<staff edit>
Have a good day

 

[JustOneWay]

But Obama has a Christmas tree....doesn't the Mao ornament (and the Hedda Lettuce one) negate having a tree?

Why is that? Many claim he is not Christian. What right has he to have a Christmas tree? Perhaps it is a Holiday tree like I read on the right wing blogs....

 

[DaisyDay]

Sorry, he was not. Please watch the BBC documentary. Hitler was not a Christian.

I watched it, all five parts. It didn't say he was not a Christian.

 

[JoyJuice]

I watched it, all five parts. It didn't say he was not a Christian.

So much for Jameswrights3 arguments. Which he has not actually presented other then saying, sorry he was not.