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Right, and other countries would hate anyone with a voting record with >90% similarity to Bush.
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Right, and other countries would hate anyone with a voting record with >90% similarity to Bush.
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Huh, just happened to stumble across this website, it's pretty interesting:
http://www.factcheck.org/
(No idea who runs it at the moment, but it seems unbiased.)
http://www.factcheck.org/
(No idea who runs it at the moment, but it seems unbiased.)
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Really? Care to provide some evidence to back up such a ridiculous claim?
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I'm just curious fatburger- since you are an American, why do you support Obama?
There are many valid reasons- but there are far more stupid ones. I'm just curious why you favor him.
There are many valid reasons- but there are far more stupid ones. I'm just curious why you favor him.
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No, I asked for evidence of the claim that "Most other countries want America to be in the stone age." - not a picture from 9/11. Maybe you don't understand the difference?
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I do.
But I love the fact that you can't explain why you like Obama. I can list many reason while I'll be voting for McCain. Typical.
But I love the fact that you can't explain why you like Obama. I can list many reason while I'll be voting for McCain. Typical.
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Funny, I was thinking the same thing about a Republican making baseless statements and getting defensive when asked to prove them.
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I wasn't aware that I was a republican.
Every nation has their own interests in mind. No nation would have our interests in mind above theirs. It is pretty simple
Every nation has their own interests in mind. No nation would have our interests in mind above theirs. It is pretty simple
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Between Obama and McCain, I have a strong preference for Bob Barr (the Libertarian Party nominee), no surprise I guess since I'm sporting an LP icon. Unfortunately, he has no chance to win and may not even be on the ballot in my state.
I like Obama better as a person, but I dislike McCain less on the issues. I'll keep a close eye on the campaign, and choose my lesser evil. Probably that'll be McCain, but it's not a done deal.
http://sendables.jibjab.com/sendables/1191/time_for_some_campaignin
I like Obama better as a person, but I dislike McCain less on the issues. I'll keep a close eye on the campaign, and choose my lesser evil. Probably that'll be McCain, but it's not a done deal.
http://sendables.jibjab.com/sendables/1191/time_for_some_campaignin
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A German member asked me to post this, since their post count is too low:
demodocos said:Could you do me a favor and post this image
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http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7264817&highlight=obama+berlin&page=3
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America is big and powerful. Europe hates us for it- so do the Arabs and Soviets.
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So putting your own country first is the same thing as wanting to put another country back to the stone age? Are you actually paying attention to the absurd things you're saying?
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Which ones, specifically? I've had a hard time finding McCain supporters who actually want to discuss the issues. The only one anyone has offered is abortion, which doesn't make sense to me, since McCain has already said he's not going to try and overturn Roe vs Wade.
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This statement reminds me of the old shampoo commercial which began with a model saying, "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful."
I used to see that on TV and think, "Believe me, that's not why I hate you."
The US is not hated because it is big and powerful. It is hated because of the way it has worn its size and wielded its power. There is a long history of foreign policy that has led to enmity with some parts of the world. And the current administration with its bully boy tactics and neo-con imperialism has created a great deal of ill-will in the world and alienated some of our best allies.
To say "They hate us because we're big and powerful" is an oversimplification at best.
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