Obama Forced to Explain "Typical White Person"

[MrJim]

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Would be interesting to see people's reaction if McCain or Clinton referred to someone as a 'typical black person'. That being said, it sounds more like a foot in the mouth thing.

 

[Morcova]

Sounds pretty racist to me.

 

[LonesomeTexan]

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some folks don't know enough to just stop

he really should just drop out now and save face. if the typical white person is afraid of blacks, I suppose the typical black person is a gang banging thug.

 

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Do you not think what he said has any truth?

 

[fated]

Would be interesting to see people's reaction if McCain or Clinton referred to someone as a 'typical black person'. That being said, it sounds more like a foot in the mouth thing.

Senator Obama attempts to attack Senator McCain's gaffe regarding Iran and al Quaeda. I hope (audaciously) that he stops looking desperate by using limp noodle arguments.

 

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Do you not think what he said has any truth?

I'm not familiar enough with American culture to say. 'Whites' don't fear 'blacks' here, exactly. More like all teens in groups cause us concern. One can be a victim of a white bunch of kids or black, or native american, or mixed. It isn't always safe to walk alone after dark in many parts of the country.

 

[LonesomeTexan]

Do you not think what he said has any truth?

is black America willing to acknowledge that there is a good reason for white people to feel this way?

 

[fated]

Sounds pretty racist to me.

Definitely contains racism though I think that was part of his point. Personally, I think many white people in my generation are insulted by our racist genocidal history. If African Americans would simply accept that they may not have performed any better in the given situation, I think we'd better understand each other.

Any white people here ashamed of slavery?
Any white people here ashamed of train track construction human rights offenses (Asian/Irish a few slaves, but these groups were cheaper)?
Any white people ashamed of Hitler?
Stalin?
Hiroshima?
The manner in which the invasion of North America was carried out?
Anyone got any more historical pearls to add?
The crusades?
Rome was filled with slave and non-romans in the empire were consider slaves!

Those are all great moments in white history. Can we assert that this is really human history?
Look at Mao, at least he isn't white, but I'm not pretending that my skin color somehow makes me better than that.

I am not saying that I don't have some racism in me. But, I can't tell, I've had a black boss with no problems at all. I think part of it is the difference in body language exhibited in different communities, but to find similarity, you don't need to see people of different color, just different upbringing or region.

I just wish Senator Obama would admit that there may be reason to avoid retreat from Iraq.

 

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is black America willing to acknowledge that there is a good reason for white people to feel this way?

So it’s your contention that whites should fear blacks, no matter the circumstances or situation.? No I don’t think there is good reason for white people to feel that way, one thing I do know and you have just admitted is that whites (some probably many) do indeed feel that way.

Is it reasonable to feel uncomfortable given the right set circumstances, environment etc. yes; I think that is reasonable. Is it reasonable to fear blacks in general no it isn’t reasonable at all.

Me thinks your colors are showing.

 

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I'm not familiar enough with American culture to say. 'Whites' don't fear 'blacks' here, exactly. More like all teens in groups cause us concern. One can be a victim of a white bunch of kids or black, or native american, or mixed. It isn't always safe to walk alone after dark in many parts of the country.

That's reasonable and that is not what Obama was addressing. He was addressing unfounded fear not driven by circumstances.

 

[LonesomeTexan]

So it’s your contention that whites should fear blacks, no matter the circumstances or situation.? No I don’t think there is good reason for white people to feel that way, one thing I do know and you have just admitted is that whites (some probably many) do indeed feel that way.

Is it reasonable to feel uncomfortable given the right set circumstances, environment etc. yes; I think that is reasonable. Is it reasonable to fear blacks in general no it isn’t reasonable at all.

Me thinks your colors are showing.

I certainly don't fear blacks. I don't think mainstream white America does for the most part either. Even if I see a black guy in gang banging apparell, I don't automatically assume he's a threat to me or my safety, or even that he's a bad guy.

Perhaps if I were a white woman, I'd feel differently. Certainly it isn't safe for any woman to be walking urban streets at night alone. Heck, even I'd be alot more uncomfortable at night. I don't think Obama is in touch with white America. I think for the most part, white Americans walking in the streets during the day time don't harbor fears of blacks.

 

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What is gang banging apparell; I don't think you would know it if it slapped you in the face. And if you are going to say baggy pants don't because you are wrong right out of the gate.

And if you don't feel that way what was your comment about?


Here are the facts, there are whites who fear blacks simply because they are black, that is probably mostly limited to white women against black males, and there are blacks who see things as racist when there is no reason to.

This is what the history of America has bred in this country. Now we can deny it all we want but it is indeed there.

How do I know because I talk with people about these things. I have been a part of that program for several years and these attitudes do exist more than you may be willing to admit.

 

[fated]

What is gang banging apparell; I don't think you would know it if it slapped you in the face. And if you are going to say baggy pants don't because you are wrong right out of the gate.

And if you don't feel that way what was your comment about?


Here are the facts, there are whites who fear blacks simply because they are black, that is probably mostly limited to white women against black males, and there are blacks who see things as racist when there is no reason to.

This is what the history of America has bred in this country. Now we can deny it all we want but it is indeed there.

How do I know because I talk with people about these things. I have been a part of that program for several years and these attitudes do exist more than you may be willing to admit.

Slant cap (or fro!), pulled-up leg on pant, including, yes, baggy clothing in gang colors/pro-teams. That would be gang gear.

Oh, I see, white women against black men?

 

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Slant cap (or fro!), pulled-up leg on pant, including, yes, baggy clothing in gang colors/pro-teams. That would be gang gear.

Oh, I see, white women against black men?

This is the most identifying mark of gangs:

gang colors

I know loads of kids who wear baggy pants and pro team stuff and have never been in a gang.

The urban wear of today for males (unfortunaltey) is baggy clothes.

 

[praying]

Oh, I see, white women against black men?

I didn't say that?

 

[fated]

This is the most identifying mark of gangs:




I know loads of kids who wear baggy pants and pro team stuff and have never been in a gang.

The urban wear of today for males (unfortunaltey) is baggy clothes.

Many parents of urban youths avoid some or all of these possible markings on principal. Likewise schools.

 

[fated]

This is the most identifying mark of gangs:




I know loads of kids who wear baggy pants and pro team stuff and have never been in a gang.

The urban wear of today for males (unfortunaltey) is baggy clothes.

Many parents of urban youths avoid some or all of these possible markings on principal.

 

[IisJustMe]

Here are the facts, there are whites who fear blacks simply because they are black, that is probably mostly limited to white women against black males, and there are blacks who see things as racist when there is no reason to.

Playing Devil's Advocate here, how would you feel if, in the midst of a sentence I was speaking (not typing out, because that gives you the opportunity to reread it) I said ...

" ... she's a typical black person ..."

Tell me the truth: Would you hear the rest of the sentence? Or would you get hung up on that simple five-word phrase?

In these increasing times of instant sound bites and dual racial sensitivities, how is a white person supposed to hear the phrase " ... she's a typical white person ... " from a presidential candidate or anyone else? Are we supposed to be unemotional and rational about it, because we "haven't been the victims of this kind of thing every day of our lives" as have black people, or are we allowed to be outraged by racial insensitivity too?

It is entirely possible that Sen. Obama is self-destructing over this issue because he does not think that whites can be equally incensed by words strung together in an unthinking way. Most blacks, from my experience, think whites are being unreasonable when insulted by a slip of the tongue such as this. It is as though they believe whites can't be insulted by a racist remark. That is a case of trying to reserve righteous outrage for themselves, and that simply is not rational. No one wants to be the target of an insult, intended or not.

If the senator wants to be "our president" too, he should learn that every word out of his mouth will be scrutinized, dissected and pureed for the very fact that he is a candidate, not just because he is a black candidate. The only thing Dan Rather was ever right about in his life was when he titled his book The Camera Never Blinks.

 

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Many parents of urban youths avoid some or all of these possible markings on principal.

That's true but most parents don't. There are certain things I won't buy my son, like those large white (stupid looking) tee shirts and pants that 5 sizes to big. He wears his pants loose but he is by no means pulling his pants up every two seconds as he walks.

At any rate this is a bit off topic.