Obama administration won't defend law banning recognition of gay marriage

[Ajax 777]

The Obama administration says it will no longer defend
the constitutionality of a law that bans recognition of same-sex marriage.

In a statement today, Attorney General Eric Holder says President Obama
has concluded that the administration can no longer defend the federal law
that defines marriage as only between a man and a woman.

Until now, the Justice Department had defended the Defense of Marriage Act.

Source: USA Today​

I honestly have to wonder how much longer this country has.
Say what you will....I think America is headed for its end.

 

[Zugzwang]

maybe it's just my imagination, but it SOUNDS like they just legalized gay marriage across the country in one fell swoop.

or am i reading that wrong?

 

[Ajax 777]

maybe it's just my imagination, but it SOUNDS like they just legalized gay marriage across the country in one fell swoop.

or am i reading that wrong?

Nope. You nailed it, Zug.
That's exactly what they've done.

PM me sometime.

 

[~RENEE~]

God have mercy on America

 

[Optimax]

With all the crises going on around the world our president has made a move that will further divide the country.

Which is his intent.

 

[Faulty]

Yup. This administration has been one nightmare after another. God is overturning a number of governments as we speak, and soon it will be our turn.

I've just read about a push from the IMF regarding the installation of a global electronic monetary unit, SDR's, so things are really shaping up.

 

[Zugzwang]

I believe I found a more sinister reason.

Baptist Press - Q&A: Why Obama's DOMA decision is significant - News with a Christian Perspective

I'll copy and bold the relevant part.


DOMA supporters warn that "gay marriage" legalization would have a wide-ranging effect on society, impacting the tax-exempt status of religious organizations, the religious liberty of private businesses, and the curriculum in elementary schools.

This is more of a wake up call then what most ppl realize, allow me to explain.

Over the past weeks, with the crisis of "democracy" in the ME, at first it may look like the beginning of PS. 83 where Israel is surrounded by her enemies, this however, is not the only reason, it is a double-pronged attack. The crisis in the ME will also affect the price of crude. and, should the Federal Reserve Note no longer be the world's secondary currency, (purchase of crude in dollars) we will not only have a double, but triple whammy.

This is the same thing. By allowing this, not only does it do the obvious, but it allows new revenue to a country that is hemmorhaging financially.

So now we have crisis' popping up that not only attack one "front", but several at the same time per event.

 

[charityagape]

That doesn't even sound legal.

 

[Ajax 777]

That doesn't even sound legal.

It's not...but since when has that mattered to Obama?

I'm thinking of when Darth Sidious said
"I will make it legal..." in Phantom Menace...

 

[EyesOfKohl]

I'm not from America, but I'm shocked by what your country is becoming.

I think that you guys need to follow suit with the Arab countries at the moment.

 

[Ajax 777]

I'm not from America, but I'm shocked by what your country is becoming.

I think that you guys need to follow suit with the Arab countries at the moment.

You mean impeach our President,
or just run him out of the White House?

 

[whatfor]

Not sure where I heard this but it was pointed out that God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah for what they were doing, but because the people excepted it.

Sort of sounds simular, it is happening here too.

 

[Svt4Him]

maybe it's just my imagination, but it SOUNDS like they just legalized gay marriage across the country in one fell swoop.

or am i reading that wrong?

You are reading it wrong. What they have done is say they will not enforce laws, which means they become the end-all be-all. America, a country of laws, will ignore laws if it doesn't suit them; that's scary stuff coming from the President of the US. Does that mean they'll still force obamacare if it's deemed unconstitutional?

 

[Svt4Him]

I'm not from America, but I'm shocked by what your country is becoming.

I think that you guys need to follow suit with the Arab countries at the moment.

Let a radical muslim group or a socialistic union create chaos? Part of that is already happening.

 

[Warren Clark]

With all do respect, isn't everybody over reacting saying this is the end of the world?

Gays being able to marry isn't going to harm anyone.

Marriage shouldn't even be under the law. It should be a private practice.
It is a religious sacriment and it should not be carried out under the law.

So really other than that, what is the problem?

 

[Warren Clark]

Not sure where I heard this but it was pointed out that God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah for what they were doing, but because the people excepted it.

Sort of sounds simular, it is happening here too.

Actually, there are many interpretations. Like throughout the bible whenever it talk about sodom and gamorrah it usual refers to the peoples failure to be hospitable.

 

[Tobias]

I don't believe it is a Christian's place to police what homosexuals do in the privacy of their homes. I say that if they really desperately want gay marriage rights, then we might as well just let them have them! Who cares?

What the homosexual community really needs though is not marriage rights, but general acceptance from society. Instead of being treated like plague infected people who will pass their disease on to anyone who comes close, we should be embracing them and showing them godly love and acceptance. They are not the enemy. They are human beings just like the rest of us, and want to be treated fairly.

We do not have to compromise our beliefs concerning homosexual activity to show love for our neighbors. Nor is the Church threatened by the "Homosexual Agenda"; which is simply the right to life liberty and happiness. By granting them their rights to equality, the only thing we sacrifice is our right to be prejudiced against them!

Many lies are passed around in Christian circles that capitalize on our fear of what homosexuals plan on doing to us. But just like our fear of all the Satanists that were "out to get us" back a decade or two ago, the reality is that most Americans (including gay ones) are for the freedom of religion. As long as we don't feel the need to force Christian morality upon them, they in turn feel no need to force the religious acceptance of homosexuality upon us.

**I understand it is against the rules to debate homosexuality in this particular sub forum. As I understand it, the rule applies to the argument whether or not it is a sin to practice homosexuality. That point I have avoided voicing my opinion on completely. I hope that is sufficient to stay within the rules. If not, I apologize!**

 

[Howard Cneal]

What do you guys think of the Westboro Baptist Church?

They are actively against homosexuality and make no bones about it.

 

[charityagape]

I think they're twisted.

 

[Child of JC]

I know what the word says concerning homosexuality. I would never teach that God is for it, when He's clearly not. But like all sin, isn't it the Holy Spirit's job to convince those who are in sin that what they're doing is wrong? Christians look to Jesus for Wisdom, and obey Him because we love Him. We're only in danger if God's people stop listening to Him. That can manifest in homosexual practices, and a thousand other ways. God does not hate homosexuality more than He hates all other sin. Law or no law, we can rise up in this land. We can show the Love of our Lord and lead sinners right into His Loving Arms. At that point, we can trust Him to do what He wants.

Right now, it looks like the Church is against the Homosexual community, and we represent Him. So, they can make a good case that God is against them, and who is going to run to a God that is angry at you?

There is a fine line between hating the sin and loving the sinner; Failure to Love is actually the biggest problem in our Countries. And this is what we're going to be judged for!

Edit: actually it's not a fine line at all! Love everyone and keep yourself from sinning. When you see sin in others, Love them, pray for them, and ask God if you can help. Ask Him for HIS heart for that person. Love is the law of the new Covenant. God placed our leaders in their positions, they are going to account for their decisions. Pray for them! Yip, Love them too.