• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

RileyG

Veteran
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Hands-on Trainee
Angels Team
Site Supporter
Feb 10, 2013
35,605
20,561
29
Nebraska
✟753,828.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Celibate
Politics
US-Republican
I knew of Boomer hate but not any trends by Christians trying to do makeover of Hitler.
He’s been dead for decades. It’s not possible to rehabilitate him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: John G.
Upvote 0

RileyG

Veteran
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Hands-on Trainee
Angels Team
Site Supporter
Feb 10, 2013
35,605
20,561
29
Nebraska
✟753,828.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Celibate
Politics
US-Republican
Never heard of this from Christians. *shrug*
Me either. Unless you count the time when the LDS Church baptized him for the dead and sealed him and his late wife for eternity in the temple,,.but LDS isn’t Christian per CF rules.
 
Upvote 0

Ignatius the Kiwi

Dissident
Mar 2, 2013
9,066
4,763
✟359,498.00
Country
New Zealand
Gender
Male
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
Marital Status
Single
Because people in general are not satisfied with the mythological view of WW2 that we all grew up with. I wouldn't try to rehabilitate Hitler, but I would seek to understand him from a historical perspective. One not concerned with the good versus evil narrative as WW2 was far more complicated than such a narrative provides.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jas3
Upvote 0

RileyG

Veteran
Christian Forums Staff
Moderator Trainee
Hands-on Trainee
Angels Team
Site Supporter
Feb 10, 2013
35,605
20,561
29
Nebraska
✟753,828.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Celibate
Politics
US-Republican
Because people in general are not satisfied with the mythological view of WW2 that we all grew up with. I wouldn't try to rehabilitate Hitler, but I would seek to understand him from a historical perspective. One not concerned with the good versus evil narrative as WW2 was far more complicated than such a narrative provides.
Understand him how?

I’m confused.
 
Upvote 0

FireDragon76

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 30, 2013
33,465
20,755
Orlando, Florida
✟1,512,901.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
United Ch. of Christ
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Democrat
Malarkey.
I've never heard of a single instance of this.

As usual, I think the Christian post is reading in too much of their own ideology.

I'm Gen X and I think blaming "Boomers" and their supposed lack of morality is just asinine. The truth is, there's not a huge number of young people admiring Hitler, far from it. However, as we get further away from any living survivors that actually wittnessed the horrors of WWII, we can expect more people to not be familiar with the subject and say some dumb things. Especially as unfortunately online there is a presence of alt-right influencers actively seeking to rehabilitate Hitler and his ideology, often through clever and edgey memes that attract the young, who are notoriously impressionable and sometimes feel like the older generation doesn't understand them and isn't relatable (not unique to any particular generation).
 
Upvote 0

FireDragon76

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Apr 30, 2013
33,465
20,755
Orlando, Florida
✟1,512,901.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
United Ch. of Christ
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Democrat
Maybe the author of the article should come up with a good working definition of "Christian".

Some Christians beat their wives, drive too fast, and drink too much, too. Trying to spin some kind of totalizing cultural narrative about how its all due to godless liberals in the 1960's seems to me to be just sophomoric nonsense that nobody outside the conservative Evangelical bubble is going to take seriously.
 
Upvote 0

Bob Crowley

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Dec 27, 2015
3,877
2,419
71
Logan City
✟968,173.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
When I read the author's brief bio at the end of the article, I noted that he was originally born into a Jewish family. With all due respect, I think he might be a bit sensitive to the subject of Adolf Hitler.

The article immediately below the OP's reference is about something called the "Manosphere" which I'd never heard of either. But if that was his main source of the views of purportedly "young Christian men" then I'd say he's taken a rather biased sample. Conjecture on my own part, but if was going to look for Hitler fans, I'd knock on the doors of the far right wing groups, the Nazis and possibly some biker gangs.

I wouldn't go looking at the average church youth group.

Incidentally the person named Andrew Tate appeared briefly on a local TV news bulletin recently due to the charges that have been laid against him and others.

Until then I'd never heard of him. The passage below is from the caption beneath Tate's photograph in Mr. Spencer's second article.

Social Media Influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan are appearing in court to appeal a decision to proceed with their trial on charges of rape, human trafficking and forming a criminal gang to exploit women. The Tate brothers were arrested on December 29, 2022, alongside Georgiana Naghel and Luana Radu as part of an investigation into human trafficking and rape. | Getty Images/Andrei Pungovschi
 
Upvote 0

2PhiloVoid

Critically Copernican
Site Supporter
Oct 28, 2006
24,778
11,589
Space Mountain!
✟1,368,254.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Last edited:
Upvote 0

David Lamb

Well-Known Member
May 30, 2024
3,424
1,874
76
Paignton
✟77,349.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Upvote 0

RDKirk

Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner
Site Supporter
Mar 3, 2013
42,154
22,747
US
✟1,733,654.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
From the link:
Consider: Boomers feared "selling out" in the 1960s. Yet after the dollar decoupled from the gold standard in 1971, near-endless dollars entered circulation via Federal Reserve debt. The Boomers ultimately sold out for the highest price imaginable: around $20 trillion.

Boomers also presided over the demolition of the family. Enforced feminist careerism and hormonal birth control drained young women’s fertility. No-fault divorce destroyed countless marriages. And abortion has claimed 60 million pre-born infant lives. All to serve the gods of pride, greed, and lust over biblical commands.

Then, as Boomers started families in the 70s and 80s, dual-income households became the norm, with “latchkey kids” raising themselves at home. (Recall that Ferris Bueller only got his “day off” because mom had to leave for work.) Meanwhile, cheap Chinese goods flooded American markets, decimating blue-collar manufacturing jobs and forcing men into offices. This meant crushing college debt to fund a white-collar career, whether a man was suited for it or not.

These idols — cheap foreign goods, feminism, divorce, casual sex, abortion, and usury — were the Boomers' gods. The social consequences of their worship hit with a rush, leading to the neon exuberance of the 1980s.

I'm going to debate that. Everything said did, indeed, happen, but Boomers did not initiate them. When those things were set into motion, Boomers were at today's Gen Z ages. We were not in control of politics or the economy.

The economy we Boomers were born into was based on America's global economic and political positioning after WWII. During the war, European and Japanese manufacturing had been bombed into oblivion, even down to the infrastructures of roads, rails, power generation, et cetera, while the US was totally untouched and had even become stronger. At the birth of the literal post-WWII Baby Boom, the US had undisputed global economic supremacy.

But that bubble of supremacy had broken by the end of the 1960s because Europe and Japan had rebuilt by then and had caught up. That in itself was nothing anyone in the US had done wrong (we couldn't continue bombing them, after all). I distinctly remember when we began seeing Japanese cars for sale in the late 60s...we teen-aged Boomers all laughed at the tiny, buzzy "rice-burners" at the time.

The War Generation (aka "Greatest Generation") was in control of politics, media, and economics. Boomers didn't decouple the dollar from the gold standard. Boomers didn't pass no-fault divorce laws. Boomers didn't invent the birth control pill. Boomers didn't create feminism. Boomers didn't pass Roe v Wade.

Everything that paragraph describes was done by the War Generation.. No, not out of malice, of course...they just didn't know what they didn't know. They thought the WWII bubble could be sustained forever. For that matter, much of politics, media, and economics is still under control of the War Generation....those folks aren't gone yet at the top, and they're still trying to sustain the WWII bubble.

We Boomers did not detect what was happening in the late 60s and into the 70s. In fact, the economy nearly collapsed just as we were entering it. But that near collapse was camouflaged by the government and banks flooding the system with fiat currency. The late 60s was when credit cards were made available--open lines of unsecured credit--and sold to Boomers like hotdogs. The value of labor was plummeting, but we didn't consciously realize it because credit had become so easy and women were working. We were just too young at the time, not wise enough to realize we were frogs in slowly boiling water.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

RDKirk

Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner
Site Supporter
Mar 3, 2013
42,154
22,747
US
✟1,733,654.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
When I read the author's brief bio at the end of the article, I noted that he was originally born into a Jewish family. With all due respect, I think he might be a bit sensitive to the subject of Adolf Hitler.

The article immediately below the OP's reference is about something called the "Manosphere" which I'd never heard of either. But if that was his main source of the views of purportedly "young Christian men" then I'd say he's taken a rather biased sample. Conjecture on my own part, but if was going to look for Hitler fans, I'd knock on the doors of the far right wing groups, the Nazis and possibly some biker gangs.

I wouldn't go looking at the average church youth group.

Incidentally the person named Andrew Tate appeared briefly on a local TV news bulletin recently due to the charges that have been laid against him and others.

Until then I'd never heard of him. The passage below is from the caption beneath Tate's photograph in Mr. Spencer's second article.
What's happening here is just a general presumption that it's "Christian men" because Christianity still dominates the question of "what religion are you?" in the US. This article could have been written by someone else who would have said "white men" or just "men."

Andrew Tate, for instance, I think does vaguely identify as "Christian" because his parents are, although nothing he says or does is compatible with the lifestyle of Christ.
 
Upvote 0

Apple Sky

In Sight Like Unto An Emerald
Site Supporter
Jan 7, 2024
7,560
976
South Wales
✟251,737.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Rather than turning to Christ's sacrifice for deliverance from false gods, however, young Christian men and the influencers they follow are being discipled in Hitler's fictitious sacrifice instead. This has resulted in even deeper spiritual poverty that is damaging churches, families, friendships, and reputations. Like a metastasizing cancer, the idol-worshippers have also begun attacking older ministers who remained faithful when many others in their generation did not.

 
Upvote 0

Aaron112

Well-Known Member
Dec 19, 2022
5,398
1,352
TULSA
✟116,572.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
In Relationship
Maybe the author of the article should come up with a good working definition of "Christian".
?
'not worldly'
'not following a religion of man'
'not believing the manmade doctrines'
'not promoting sin'
'not promoting false gospel nor false teachings nor anything false'
'not promoting any manmade explanations'
'not promoting nor teaching things that are flesh-origin(not from above , not from the Father) '
'not promoting anything anti-Scripture even in the tiniest detail'
'not promoting anything instead of Jesus' Way'
'not promoting man's way(s), of men'
'not subject to hasatan'
'not carnal'
'not "for show"'
'not deceptive in any way - no spot nor wrinkle'
'not using fleshly means for fleshly purposes; not greedy; not selfish'
that's for starters.
 
Upvote 0

Mark Quayle

Monergist; and by reputation, Reformed Calvinist
Site Supporter
May 28, 2018
14,283
6,366
69
Pennsylvania
✟949,424.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Reformed
Marital Status
Widowed
?
'not worldly'
'not following a religion of man'
'not believing the manmade doctrines'
'not promoting sin'
'not promoting false gospel nor false teachings nor anything false'
'not promoting any manmade explanations'
'not promoting nor teaching things that are flesh-origin(not from above , not from the Father) '
'not promoting anything anti-Scripture even in the tiniest detail'
'not promoting anything instead of Jesus' Way'
'not promoting man's way(s), of men'
'not subject to hasatan'
'not carnal'
'not "for show"'
'not deceptive in any way - no spot nor wrinkle'
'not using fleshly means for fleshly purposes; not greedy; not selfish'
that's for starters.
How about, Born-again-believer. What he was talking about didn't sound to me like someone belonging to Christ.
 
Upvote 0

Yarddog

Senior Contributor
Site Supporter
Jun 25, 2008
16,883
4,241
Louisville, Ky
✟1,018,184.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
He’s been dead for decades. It’s not possible to rehabilitate him.
Lol, I was wondering that, as well. Then I read the article and there is very little about Hitler in the article. It seems to be more about questioning what they have learned from past generations.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: RileyG
Upvote 0