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Now that I put my faith in display to my coworker things are even more difficult and uncomfortable

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Don't worry, I am taking it slowly with this woman. She called me yesterday wondering if I wanted to hang out this Friday and I told her yes. She said she feels very bad that the Lexus my coworker let me drive got broken into and she said she would spilt the repair cost with me. I told my Coworker and she said not to worry about it. She told me to tell her mentor that it was 600 dollars to replace the window so she would give me 300 and I can keep it (FYI I am not going to do that). Anyways the lady I went out with said she would like to visit my church this time since we visited hers last Sunday.
She did repeat again how she would like to try to witness to my coworker together and see if we can bring her back into the fold. That I am hesitant to do.
Our boss made the official announcement yesterday and my coworker is now engineering manager. And oddly our boss already got it into her head that me and my coworker's mentor are already a couple. She apparently is super thrilled and told me how wonderful she is and whatnot. She even said that i can leave early on friday for that date. She told me that if my coworker now supervisor didnt agree yo hust tell her that she approved it. Apparently when this woman was an EIT she was our boss's EIT and my coworker(now supervisor ) was her EIT. And the official story of how my coworker got her black eye is she "slipped and fell down a pipe ramp". Things are pretty much back to normal in the office. My Co worker is back to being ice cold to every body but she has taken to calling me AL Cowlings, and everyone is too scared to ask about her shiner. She is still insisting that I sell her my bronco and both our boss and the woman I went out with think I should take her deal.
My Co worker wanted me to drive her to lunch but I politely declined.
 
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She called me yesterday wondering if I wanted to hang out this Friday and I told her yes.
Yes, go for it, as per 1CORINTHIANS.7.

The Word of God says that; .......
1. the wife is the husband's helpmate to take care of the earth/environment(GENESIS.2), ie he should be the head of the family or CEO and wife should be the personal assistant.
....... Unfortunately, Satan has been destroying this mission, ie people today tend to destroy the earth/environment, eg through "lazying" technology and industrialization. Hence, the Lord Jesus Christ will be returning and create a new earth for His people(REV.21:1). Maybe, today, the Christian family's main mission on earth is to tithe to the Church/pastors, witness to the unsaved and help needy Christians plus good people who are in need.
2. the wife has been cursed by God to be emotionally enslaved to her husband(GENESIS.3:14-17) = wives tend to be fearful of direct confrontation or communication with the husband, like a slave being fearful of his/her master. So, husbands need to be attentive and have 6th sense about the wife's messages and desires, eg be quick to catch indirect signals/hints from the wife.
3. beauty or looks will fade with time and age, eg a wrinkly married couple in their 80s. So, what is inside the wife is much more important, eg lovingness and good morals.
4. etc
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I think your date wants you to be there for her protege(= your co-worker, Ava) when she is in another "biting" altercation with her men-customers, eg oil rig workers.

Bear in mind that adult family members usually do not lust after each other, eg brothers and sisters or in-laws. If you are dating Ava's mentor, Ava may look at you as her future brother-in-law.

She did repeat again how she would like to try to witness to my coworker together and see if we can bring her back into the fold. That I am hesitant to do.
Not a good idea to witness to her and try to bring her back into the fold since Ava is an ex-Christian, ie she already knows the gospel. Ava can always return to the fold on her own whenever she is ready. ...

1TIMOTHY.4: = The Great Apostasy
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
 
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You've had some pretty good advice already, so i will just add:
1. When you are on the clock--many places can fire you for "evangelizing"
2. Men should not be ministering to women 1 on 1.

I am married, if I worked with an atheist woman who was asking me for dating advice or anything like that--I would either tell her I have no idea, or else I would introduce her to my wife and ask her to speak (via email) with my wife on any questions she has regarding God, dating, etc...

again, if you hear nothing else: NEVER COUNSEL A FEMALE BY YOURSELF.

A quick story:
My former time in the Air Force, the unit I was in was trying to save money by have me drive (I was an E-4) with a male E-6 in a rental car from Florida to Biloxi Mississippi-- and I had to put my foot down-- I was like NO WAY.
They were like "We can't afford for two rental cars when there should be no issues with you two sharing a 1 day road trip"
But I was like (to my Company Commander who was a female Captain) NO WAY-- what if he wants to smoke cigarettes? What if he wants to play foul vulgar music? What if he wants to tell vulgar stories the whole time? I said "Look, he severely outranks me, and can pretty much say and do whatever he wants--I'm not going to be stuck for 24 hours on a trip like this--you know I am a Christian man, and I will not sit there and be forced to listen to vulgar gangsta-rap" This may come off as racist, but the guy was black, and I already knew what he listened to because he had it playing in his office from time to time (until a high-ranker would walk in, then he'd quickly shut it off).
NO WAY.
I won. They flew me down there---and made him drive--but they said, when you guys need to go somewhere, you have to take turns with the rental car--- I was like FINE WITH ME! WOO HOO! yay me.. I stuck to my guns.
You can insist that you never have to drive cross country with this hooligan if you choose.
 
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You can insist that you never have to drive cross country with this hooligan if you choose.
How things work in the military/government and businesses is different.
....... In your case, the military/government will just foot the extra transport bills at the expense of clueless taxpayers = hence, the US government is in US$23 trillion of debt. The military/government can afford to over-spend and be in a mountain of debt or bankrupt, but not a business. Most businesses do not tolerate such extra transport expenses that are incurred "unnecessarily" by the intolerance of an employee. The intolerant employee can wear ear-plugs, open the car windows, etc or just be tolerant. Otherwise, the intolerant employee will likely be fired for indiscipline.
 
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She did repeat again how she would like to try to witness to my coworker together and see if we can bring her back into the fold. That I am hesitant to do.

My good man, this is great. Don't be hesitant, see this as an opportunity to grow in Christ. All you are responsible is of spending time with the Lord and being strong in Him. Eternal life of a soul is of great value before God, and here's a chance for you to demonstrate your love towards Him. Grow in your relationship and always return to the Father, He will give you the strength to do the right thing.
 
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Read Proverbs 7 and the characteristics of the adulteress woman. I pray for strength in your temptation, because it's a trap.
 
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Loooooook fooooooor anotheeeeeeeer jooooooob. This won't get better. Michael, this will get worse. Take this horrible trip as a sign from God.
OP may have to... this is another thread filled with bias and half truths. Today it became common currency in Engineering, Projects,and accounting OP'S lets say musings on 'ava' he tried to deflect by saying that he didnt post any of this stuff and how he is going to complaine that somebody is playing a trick on him. It was thuroughly cringeworthy. The big fireworks havent happened yet since 'ava' is in Argentina with their boss but she will be back next monday.
I am not fully aware of the rules here, i feel you guys deserve to know the unbiased truth of some of these threads since you all have given heartfelt prayers and advice ,but is it appropriate to post?
 
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Can I just ask you Cyroduck if the op's posts were true as he said? I started to get a bit wary as it seemed to go on forever and got that I was not sure it was real, we did pray and offer advice yet never really got answers.
 
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Can I just ask you Cyroduck if the op's posts were true as he said? I started to get a bit wary as it seemed to go on forever and got that I was not sure it was real, we did pray and offer advice yet never really got answers.
True is what sense? His recolections of events... 90% true - thats how we are 90% sure that it is those two yoyos. As for the his descriptions of his feelings, his moral outrage, and such i cannot say. I can make an educated guess that most of his heart's conflict and his stated intentions are lies but i would be a liar if i were to say one way or an other that i knew for a fact since i am not him.
Make sense?
Is any one interested in knowing how the story continues to unfold?
 
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Its just this subject seems to be yo-yoing all the time and I don't understand where any of it is going. I guess its none of my business really.
I was concerned at the start but now I think he is fixated on "ava" and don't know which way is up
I guess I'm saying I don't really know what the op really wants.
 
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I feel the whole thread falls into the category of Gossip, he did this she does that
If it's prayer that a person wants, then that is what should be asked for, anything else is a justification for the way one feels, and as with Gossip, you can be assured, there is a modicum of exaggeration, everyone needs to be justified in their goings, and when asking for prayer, even more so, please I'm a Christian.
 
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Yep you got it. Thats EXACTLY what it is. She is the chick that he could never have
 
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She stated poking around and shuffling through things until she found my hand gun.
Yep... i can see this being true, that girl is like a racoon she loves rifling through other people's belongings.
This is most likely true. She does like to play sax at the most inappropriate times.
She then proceeded to tell me an "adorable story " of how my Co worker for her stripped searched at the airport while going through customs, how she "got Ava-ed".
Yep.. this actually happened thats why no one wants to travel with her ever. Curiously though OP says he doesnt like it but he is the only one, other thsn her boss, who ever 'reluctantly' agrees to go with her
rig managers call her a "hot potato".
One of the more polite things they call her
 
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Any one else notice that this is the second time in this thread that OP describes how he wishes he could strangle 'ava'. Any one take note how graphically he describes his fantasy of hurting her?
e were very lucky that no one from the oil company saw the scuffle but or boss found out pretty quick. A cellphone video of the incident made its way to the head office in British Columbia before I was even done dressing her wound.
Video is still on our company's intranet...
I call BS on this. That girl is immune to criticism. No way she would make a tearful apology
OP makes it sound like this girl knew that he would be perfect for her friend but tge truth is she has tried setting that woman up with pratically every single man at the company since she got here. OP was just the first taker.
 
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Very wierd but 100% true. If it wasnt for the fact that 'ava' is very fair skined and her boss is a very dark skinned African woman you would honestly think they were mother and daughter.
 
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I CALL BS!!! He makes it sound like he is too moral to 'take advantage of her' but the real reason is cause he couldnt afford the insurance and premium gas. It wasnt 2 weeks after he wrote that post that he took the deal. Funny he was quiet about it and didnt mention it again. Dont feel too bad for ava though she got herself a vynal OJ simpson decal for her passenger window and she loves the attention she gets for her OJ mobile
 
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Cyroduck said:
Kind of true kind of not.
...continuing from the recent closed thread for debating ....

Who pays for the young lady's hotel accommodation during the site visit to Ft Lauderdale.? The vendor or Ava's company.?

The OP should not have been too hasty in firing someone from his/her job, which is a very cruel thing to do. Firing/sacking should only be done as a very last resort. ... MATTHEW.7:12 = 12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. (conversely, whatever you do not want men to do to you, do not do also to them)

https://www.bgbc.com/tax-deductions-for-business-gifts-vs-promotion/
https://quickbooks.intuit.com/r/taxes/what-you-can-and-cant-write-off-with-business-travel/
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/luxury-cars-business-tax-deductions-65124.html

AFAIK, staffs' business travel, advertising and promotional expenses incurred by a company are 100% tax-deductible, similar to staffs' salaries, ie they are treated as the costs of business operations.
....... Any company expenses that are not tax-deductible still enjoy a "tax-deduction" of about 25% as foregone government income tax on the company's profits. Hence, very profitable companies are very generous in giving out huge bonuses to their Directors, CEOs and top executives, eg investment banks and tech companies. Maybe such generosity by the company should also trickle down to the employees.
 
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Hilarious but true. A few of the girls from work were invited to her house for a pool party and it was exactly as OP describes. Huge house and a ton of new in box items just stacked up everywhere.
I am really thinking I am going to pursue a relationship with my coworker's mentor. She is a good godly woman. The only think is she is hoping that I could help her keep my coworker out of trouble and maybe eventually bring her back into the faith.
I have met this woman before and she is a class act all the way. And she is gonna RUN when she reads OP threads about Ava.
 
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I have no opinion on the ethics of it none whatsoever. I am just saying the situation is not near as sinister as OP painted out to be. I personally think you and a few other posters are correct that OP is waaaay to focused on the minutia of managing but thats neither hear nor there.
 
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