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Not an aura....what is it?
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I like the sign he made for me. It's part of my sig....I don't know if he even knew this when he made the sign, but I am a director for children's pageants....so to say I "scare the children" is pretty funny to me.
Besides, I think he's kinda cute.
Don't worry, I'll get tired of my sig eventually and change it.
Besides, I think he's kinda cute.
Don't worry, I'll get tired of my sig eventually and change it.
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Hey, for what it's worth, I've been paying attention to when these things 'pop' out vs. me having to look for them (some are harder to see than others).
I've noticed that emotion is closely linked to how large an aura is. When someone is passionate (for good or bad) about what they are saying or doing, their auras tend to pop out.
I've noticed that emotion is closely linked to how large an aura is. When someone is passionate (for good or bad) about what they are saying or doing, their auras tend to pop out.
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Wow......REALLY old thread here. I'd like to resurrect it, just to see what people have to say about this now.
To answer Ceph's question, no, I don't see weird balls from the corner of my eye. Yes, I know I can control seeing an aura, for the most part. Occasionally, I cannot (if they are especially big or bright).
Anyway....lots of new people since this thread was created. Love to hear your input.
I'm more and more convinced that the "separation" I saw was a fluke and that auras are our personal energy fields.
I would still love to know what to do with this "gift."
To answer Ceph's question, no, I don't see weird balls from the corner of my eye. Yes, I know I can control seeing an aura, for the most part. Occasionally, I cannot (if they are especially big or bright).
Anyway....lots of new people since this thread was created. Love to hear your input.
I'm more and more convinced that the "separation" I saw was a fluke and that auras are our personal energy fields.
I would still love to know what to do with this "gift."
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sounds like the electromagnetic energy field that all living beings radiate, though I think that the larger fields you see that are related to strong emotions are the more traditional aura people think about. Not everyone sees them in color.
Here's an article on putative energy fields or biofields you might find interesting
Here's an article on putative energy fields or biofields you might find interesting
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Greetings!
I've never been able to actually "see" a person's aura, though I have, since childhood, had some sense of it. I can use that sense to read people, to a limited degree, though in a more empathic sense than telepathic.
My sister has recently been studying to be a massage therapist, and has been finding she has a very natural talent for locating muscle spasms throughout a person's body (she has always been very talented with giving the run-of-the-mill back rub). I've suggested to her that she may be subconciously reading a person's aura, but she remains skeptical, as she doesn't put much stock in "new age stuff."
Just my thoughts,
-- Druweid
I've never been able to actually "see" a person's aura, though I have, since childhood, had some sense of it. I can use that sense to read people, to a limited degree, though in a more empathic sense than telepathic.
My sister has recently been studying to be a massage therapist, and has been finding she has a very natural talent for locating muscle spasms throughout a person's body (she has always been very talented with giving the run-of-the-mill back rub). I've suggested to her that she may be subconciously reading a person's aura, but she remains skeptical, as she doesn't put much stock in "new age stuff."
Just my thoughts,
-- Druweid
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I'm skeptical about auras myself so I'll stay out of the conversation.
But I will note that the 'don't use your abilities without Christs guidance' line is very similar to Warhammer 40K. In Warhamer potential psychics have to be recruited early and trained or they'll be lured to Chaos.
But I will note that the 'don't use your abilities without Christs guidance' line is very similar to Warhammer 40K. In Warhamer potential psychics have to be recruited early and trained or they'll be lured to Chaos.
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If you want a skeptical opinion, I have a couple. Neither can really be verified on an individual level, just some speculations.
The first is a theory is brain chemistry. Your pineal gland produces a number of chemicals and feelings which could be causing these. Melatonin produces brainwaves that control how you feel physically- alpha brainwaves cause a feeling of calm awakeness, delta and theta waves make you tired, etc. Brainwaves can be read usually through computers but, assumably, some people might be able to pick these up off of other people as well. The reason you percieve them visually might be due to another chemical, bufotenin. It controls our perceptions of reality- schizophrenics generally have less of this, and followers of eastern religion have much more. In very high doses it can cause severe hallucinations and ego loss, with the hallucinations generally being of white lights and beings. Lower 'high' doses might cause you to percieve this as auras around people as well as a feeling of general serenity. Of course, it could also just be 'trails' due to hallucinations as well.
Certain drug tests might be able to detect abnormal levels of bufotenin and malatotin as well, if you think it might be due to this. I suppose it's worth a try, but the drug tests would likely be hard to find, as well as expensive.
Interestingly, another brainwave, called gamma brainwaves I believe, has been associated with hyper-aware state of minds like bufotenin/tryptamines cause. The same feelings are present, but without the increase in brain chemical levels. Just a thought...
The other theory is about morphic fields. These are theoretical information fields around objects. They are pure conjecture, and generally not accepted by the scientific community as a whole, but the theory has managed to work it's way into the quantum mechanics category. It's still pure theory, but an interesting idea nonetheless. In fact, if true, it might very well be the explanation for souls, but like I said, it's not been proven and at this time it's about as scientifically proveable as god.
Anyway, these things called 'morphic fields' aree supposedly present in everything. These contain a blueprint of sorts for the physical being/object it represents. In self-aware beings like ourselves our state of mind can reflect the information present in our morphic fields. When one dies, the field may be left behind containing information about that person. Similar fields are thought to 'resonate' with each other. It might account for people seeing ghosts of people, when they are really experiencing these fields interacting with their own. Whether these fields can operate on their own (as an out of body experience or something) apart from the physical body hasn't even been proposed as far as I'm aware.
It could be an interesting explanation for the whole 'spirit world' in general, if it's a valid theory.
Anyways, that's the only two remotely scientific explanations I can think of right now, you can return to your new age mysticism talks
The first is a theory is brain chemistry. Your pineal gland produces a number of chemicals and feelings which could be causing these. Melatonin produces brainwaves that control how you feel physically- alpha brainwaves cause a feeling of calm awakeness, delta and theta waves make you tired, etc. Brainwaves can be read usually through computers but, assumably, some people might be able to pick these up off of other people as well. The reason you percieve them visually might be due to another chemical, bufotenin. It controls our perceptions of reality- schizophrenics generally have less of this, and followers of eastern religion have much more. In very high doses it can cause severe hallucinations and ego loss, with the hallucinations generally being of white lights and beings. Lower 'high' doses might cause you to percieve this as auras around people as well as a feeling of general serenity. Of course, it could also just be 'trails' due to hallucinations as well.
Certain drug tests might be able to detect abnormal levels of bufotenin and malatotin as well, if you think it might be due to this. I suppose it's worth a try, but the drug tests would likely be hard to find, as well as expensive.
Interestingly, another brainwave, called gamma brainwaves I believe, has been associated with hyper-aware state of minds like bufotenin/tryptamines cause. The same feelings are present, but without the increase in brain chemical levels. Just a thought...
The other theory is about morphic fields. These are theoretical information fields around objects. They are pure conjecture, and generally not accepted by the scientific community as a whole, but the theory has managed to work it's way into the quantum mechanics category. It's still pure theory, but an interesting idea nonetheless. In fact, if true, it might very well be the explanation for souls, but like I said, it's not been proven and at this time it's about as scientifically proveable as god.
Anyway, these things called 'morphic fields' aree supposedly present in everything. These contain a blueprint of sorts for the physical being/object it represents. In self-aware beings like ourselves our state of mind can reflect the information present in our morphic fields. When one dies, the field may be left behind containing information about that person. Similar fields are thought to 'resonate' with each other. It might account for people seeing ghosts of people, when they are really experiencing these fields interacting with their own. Whether these fields can operate on their own (as an out of body experience or something) apart from the physical body hasn't even been proposed as far as I'm aware.
It could be an interesting explanation for the whole 'spirit world' in general, if it's a valid theory.
Anyways, that's the only two remotely scientific explanations I can think of right now, you can return to your new age mysticism talks
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psychedelicist said:If you want a skeptical opinion, I have a couple. Neither can really be verified on an individual level, just some speculations.
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Anyways, that's the only two remotely scientific explanations I can think of right now, you can return to your new age mysticism talks
No, no, no....don't feel like you have to rush off! I don't care if it's explained scientifically or spiritually.....but am very curious and love to hear all valid input.
It's getting late, so I just sort of skimmed your post. I will read this (and all posts) in depth when my brain isn't quite so tired. But, what do you all think of an electro-magnetic theory? I am no scientist, so anything that sounds reasonable will probably work for me.
Does static electricity play into this at all??
Your morphic fields comments are most interesting. I've often wondered about that. You are the first I've heard actually verbalize what I've often wondered. If I understand it correctly, you are saying (in the simplest of terms) that some "ghosts" might be explained as a sort of tape that is playing over and over? Or a left-over energy of some sort, whether conscience or not?
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Morphic fields are the idea of Rupert Sheldrake. He is generally regarded as being on the edge of fringe science. Most scientists (as far as I can tell) accept that his work is science though most scientists also think that his theories are likely wrong and that he is treading very close to pseudo-science. His focus on explaining things clearly, retrieving experimental data and creating solutions that include predictions and are falsifiable are what save him, I think.
Anyway, here's his site:
http://www.sheldrake.org/
The stuff is rather technical at times. This isn't some pseudo-scientific site that tries to sound scientific by throwing around words like "field" and "energy" and the like. He wants to make sure that his theories are consistent with both the world and themselves. The FAQ is probably as good of place as any to start.
As for the definition of a morphic field, here's what he gives:
A field within and around a morphic unit which organizes its characteristic structure and pattern of activity. Morphic fields underlie the form and behaviour of holons or morphic units at all levels of complexity. The term morphic field includes morphogenetic, behavioural, social, cultural, and mental fields. Morphic fields are shaped and stabilized by morphic resonance from previous similar morphic units, which were under the influence of fields of the same kind. They consequently contain a kind of cumulative memory and tend to become increasingly habitual.
Basically morphic fields are an attempt to explain how things organize themselves. I believe that morphogenetic fields (morphic fields of living organisms) were the first proposed (by someone else) and in fact were proposed to solve the problem of growth. Sheldrake recent work has largely consisted of taking that idea and both fleshing it out and generalizing it (as well as testing it, of course).
It's all kind of confusing, but unless you adapt some terminology and model a discussion of morphic fields just devolves into technobabble.
Anyway, here's his site:
http://www.sheldrake.org/
The stuff is rather technical at times. This isn't some pseudo-scientific site that tries to sound scientific by throwing around words like "field" and "energy" and the like. He wants to make sure that his theories are consistent with both the world and themselves. The FAQ is probably as good of place as any to start.
As for the definition of a morphic field, here's what he gives:
A field within and around a morphic unit which organizes its characteristic structure and pattern of activity. Morphic fields underlie the form and behaviour of holons or morphic units at all levels of complexity. The term morphic field includes morphogenetic, behavioural, social, cultural, and mental fields. Morphic fields are shaped and stabilized by morphic resonance from previous similar morphic units, which were under the influence of fields of the same kind. They consequently contain a kind of cumulative memory and tend to become increasingly habitual.
Basically morphic fields are an attempt to explain how things organize themselves. I believe that morphogenetic fields (morphic fields of living organisms) were the first proposed (by someone else) and in fact were proposed to solve the problem of growth. Sheldrake recent work has largely consisted of taking that idea and both fleshing it out and generalizing it (as well as testing it, of course).
It's all kind of confusing, but unless you adapt some terminology and model a discussion of morphic fields just devolves into technobabble.
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Hi LibertyChic.
I'm another one with a "thin veil." A few questions ... do you see it with other living things, such as animals or plants? Does it increase or decrease in intensity according to the person or according to how long you look at it? Does it appear if you are in a dark room as well as in a lighted room?
My view is that you are seeing "life force" (for lack of a much better term). I have see the same as soon as I sit to meditate. But I see it with all living things, not just people. I also tend to see it regardless of ambient light.
Other nonglamorous options include a problem with your eyes or migraines. Do you know if you have either of these?
As for what to do, I think that what to do will become apparent when the time is right. I tend to generate and send metta to those whom I think are in pain or are suffering ... but this is a Buddhist practice and I don't know if that is your proclivity.
Metta,
ZW
I'm another one with a "thin veil." A few questions ... do you see it with other living things, such as animals or plants? Does it increase or decrease in intensity according to the person or according to how long you look at it? Does it appear if you are in a dark room as well as in a lighted room?
My view is that you are seeing "life force" (for lack of a much better term). I have see the same as soon as I sit to meditate. But I see it with all living things, not just people. I also tend to see it regardless of ambient light.
Other nonglamorous options include a problem with your eyes or migraines. Do you know if you have either of these?
As for what to do, I think that what to do will become apparent when the time is right. I tend to generate and send metta to those whom I think are in pain or are suffering ... but this is a Buddhist practice and I don't know if that is your proclivity.
Metta,
ZW
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MoonlessNight said:
Thank you for the link, moonless. It looks like I'll need to get a bit more scientific-minded than I am right now. Alright then...I'm up for it. Give me a few months (not being sarcastic).
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Yes and no. If I look for it, I can see it, but it's much smaller (and nearly non-existant on plants).Zen_Woof said:
Again, it depends. I can watch a person while they are speaking, for example. The more they get "into" what they are discussing (it was always languages for my linguist Spanish professor), the bigger and brighter it gets. They do not need to be speaking for me to see it, of course. I'm convinced now that it is very closely related to emotion and physical well-being.
Dim, but not dark (pitch black), that I'm aware of. They show up against light or dark backgrounds, indoors or out.
Yea. Based on what I see and what little I know about it, I would agree with this.
Heh. Yes, I do, actually. I'm blind as a bat w/o my contacts. I also started getting migraines maybe 7 years ago. The first time I saw a "halo" that is associated with migraines, I'd thought I'd really lost my mind. However, these are very rare and completely different than the light I see coming from people.
Do you ever share what you see with the people you see it on? (did that poorly constructed sentence make any sense at all?)
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LibertyChic said:Yes and no. If I look for it, I can see it, but it's much smaller (and nearly non-existant on plants).
Again, it depends. I can watch a person while they are speaking, for example. The more they get "into" what they are discussing (it was always languages for my linguist Spanish professor), the bigger and brighter it gets. They do not need to be speaking for me to see it, of course. I'm convinced now that it is very closely related to emotion and physical well-being.
Dim, but not dark (pitch black), that I'm aware of. They show up against light or dark backgrounds, indoors or out.
Yea. Based on what I see and what little I know about it, I would agree with this.
Heh. Yes, I do, actually. I'm blind as a bat w/o my contacts. I also started getting migraines maybe 7 years ago. The first time I saw a "halo" that is associated with migraines, I'd thought I'd really lost my mind. However, these are very rare and completely different than the light I see coming from people.
Do you ever share what you see with the people you see it on? (did that poorly constructed sentence make any sense at all?)
Hi!
Well, your experience sounds familiar.
And sometimes I'll share it in a roundabout way (such as asking someone I perceive as being in pain whether everything is alright). I'll also share with my meditation colleagues. It's more common than you might think!
Happy Thanksgiving!
ZW
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