not a joke

[Groce]

I thought this was a joke, or an adult entertainer. But its not. Very inappropriate for a "priest".


http://www.getreligion.org/?p=1754

 

[Fleurette]

The clothing, or the job? I saw it in the paper, but didn't think much of it - I'm starting to think I've missed the controversy.

 

[artybloke]

Sorry - but in what way is spreading the good news about Christ to the fashionistas inappropriate for a priest?

 

[karen freeinchristman]

I wish we could all be a little less judgemental.

 

[Groce]

The clothing, or the job? I saw it in the paper, but didn't think much of it - I'm starting to think I've missed the controversy.

Well Both, but I am talking about the clothing this time.

 

[Groce]

I wish we could all be a little less judgemental.

Do you want a "priest" dressed like that? How is that a good model for the models.

 

[Gerdie]

I don't have a problem if she dresses like that in her free time, but i don't think she should dress like that with the collar, it's a bit unprofessional.

 

[Groce]

I don't have a problem if she dresses like that in her free time, but i don't think she should dress like that with the collar, it's a bit unprofessional.

Exactly

 

[Polycarp1]

I think it would depend very much on the context. That would look just fine for a priest taking a youth group on a hike, for example.

And Groce? It would be against the rules to refer to you as "a self-styled Christian" with those sneering quotation marks -- although I'm sure it's true that you consider yourself a Christian, so it would not be a false statement per se. But the quotation marks would imply "well, he may think he is, but I don't" and hence be an insult.

Hence, I'd be honored if, in the interest of amity here, you would avoid the "sneering quotes" referencing those women (and gay men, I believe, too) who have received Holy Orders (in the opinion of many of us, at least; you are welcome to argue that their ordinations were invalid if you so choose, but sneer quotes are not argument but insult).

 

[Groce]

Well she might think shes a priest but she inst, so there for the "". But thats was not the point of the OP.

 

[Timothy]

Well she might think shes a priest but she inst, so there for the "". But thats was not the point of the OP.

Oh? When making that sort of a claim, would you just mind confirming for us that you've asked her for an ordination certificate and that she doesn't have one? Because the Diocese of Chester has installed her as priest-curate at St. Michael's Church, Chester. As far as the Anglican Communion is concerned, she is a validly and licitly ordained priest. I will ask you to withdraw your claims against her, or prove with documented evidence that she has not been ordained priest.

Timothy

 

[Groce]

Oh? When making that sort of a claim, would you just mind confirming for us that you've asked her for an ordination certificate and that she doesn't have one? Because the Diocese of Chester has installed her as priest-curate at St. Michael's Church, Chester. As far as the Anglican Communion is concerned, she is a validly and licitly ordained priest. I will ask you to withdraw your claims against her, or prove with documented evidence that she has not been ordained priest.

Timothy

Just because i have a certificate does not make me something. I will not withdraw claims on those grounds. It is not a valid ordination, but that was not the point of the op. There are plenty of threads about woman being ordained already dont turn this in that.

 

[longhair75]

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[longhair75]

Well she might think shes a priest but she inst, so there for the "". But thats was not the point of the OP.

friend grace, it would appear that the reverend jepson is an ordained priest, and curate of saint michael's church. cite

you may not approve of this ordination, or her behaviour, but her status in the anglican church is not contingent upon your appoval.

 

[longhair75]

Just because i have a certificate does not make me something. I will not withdraw claims on those grounds. It is not a valid ordination, but that was not the point of the op. There are plenty of threads about woman being ordained already dont turn this in that.

friend grace,

it is possible that i am in error, and that you have information regarding the validity of the ordination of reverend jepson that so far has not been addressed in this thread. would you please share this information with the rest of us?

thanks

 

[pmcleanj]

Well she might think shes a priest but she inst, so there for the "". But thats was not the point of the OP.

There are many Anglicans who do not agree with, or do not believe in the validity of, women's orders.

That is not a problem on this board, any more than it was the point of the OP. You may state that disagreement at any time.

What causes disagreement on this board, is when the issues over which we disagree are expressed in a snide, sneering or contemptuous manner. Covert expressions of disagreement very often fall into that pattern.

Overt ways in which you could have addressed the topic while remaining true to your disagreement with ordaining women to the priesthood, would be

"Very inappropriate for someone who holds the position of priest, even though I do consider her ordination to be invalid."

or

"Even though by my understanding she, being a woman, is not truly a priest; this is very inappropriate"

We have had many members over the past week make a concerted effort to restore harmony to this board. Those efforts have born fruit in the fellowship we have shared as a result. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. We must be careful not to wound one another for the passing pleasure of displaying our wit or venting our annoyance.

 

[DeoJuvante]

Well she might think shes a priest but she inst, so there for the "". But thats was not the point of the OP.

Unless you can provide evidence that she has not been duly ordained by the Church of England, then I would ask that you refrain from alleging that she is not a priest.

 

[Groce]

Unless you can provide evidence that she has not been duly ordained by the Church of England, then I would ask that you refrain from alleging that she is not a priest.

If you can provide me evadnce that its ok to ordain women then yes, but you cant so, no. Does priestess make you feel better.

 

[Groce]

We have had many members over the past week make a concerted effort to restore harmony to this board. Those efforts have born fruit in the fellowship we have shared as a result.

Thats because all the people who would disagree have been driven off.

 

[Fleurette]

At what stage does her garb become inappropriate? Leaving aside the issue of the validity of her ordination, I've seen male priests dressed in leather jacket and jeans while wearing the collar. Is that inappropriate?