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For the third time I am posting this! It keeps getting deleted. *Sigh* This is here for peoples who can stand all the gore of this stuff, and need a better example than, "Gimli jumped on the grave and swung his ax". I didn't write this, so give me no credit.
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1.3 Fighting Styles

In RPing there are 3 fighting styles: True, Cheeze, and Mix. The last one is one that I have recently standardized.

Basically these 3 styles have a lot in common, yet have very distinct differences. Fighters usually favor one or the other, but good, versatile warriors can adapt to any style in a battle. No one style is better than another. It's all a matter of personal preference.

True- True fighting, or orthodox fighting, is a style that is the oldest and most followed amongst fighting vets. Newbies usually don't fight True right away; it is somewhat of an acquired taste. Yet it is powerful in the respect that it requires high creativity and honor to make it work. True is defined as:
On offense-
Not describing any inflicted damage
Not controlling the opponent (I.e. making him/her do things without their permission)

On defense-
Not completely avoiding damage (see Determining Damage)
Not being a god (see Deity Mode)

Determining Damage- Determining damage is a large part of True fighting, and the most important, because you have to decide how much damage is inflicting on yourself based on your opponent's attack. Let's first see an example of determining damage:

(Wiergraf on defense, Shinn Kuuro attacking)
With a mighty yell Shinn Kuuro swings his flaming blade in a wide, powerful arc, slicing through the air in the blink of an eye, aiming right for Wiergraf's exposed head.

If the battle so far had consisted of short attacks, then this would be qualified as a good hitting attack, or a attack capable of inflicting damage. To determine if an attack is good enough, take into account spelling, grammar, punctuation, detail, and physics, or how the attack is unfolding. Also take into account the stance your character is in, how proficient he is in melee or magic defense, etc. Wiergraf is a master swordsman, and Shinn's attack was concise, descriptive, and grammatically perfect, thus making it a good hitting attack. Wiergraf would then respond like this:

Wiergraf notices the incoming blade and quickly throws up his Apocalypse in an attempt to ward off the ferocious blow. The two weapons collide, sparks flying, and Wiergraf manages to deflect the sword somewhat so instead of hitting his vulnerable head it's teeth cut into his left shoulder. A river of blood begins to seep out of the long, jagged gash, and Wiergraf narrows his eyes.

Now, here's an example of when not to inflict damage:

Shinn takes his sword and he swings it at weirs body. The sword goes quick and fast and Shinn aims it at weir's head.

Hm...not too good. Spelling errors (Wiergraf=wier), grammar errors, and a lack of power and description. An appropriate response would be thus:

Wiergraf rolls his eyes and watches at the futile mortal attempts to strike him. His pathetic toy of a sword thumps against Wiergraf's head and bounces back as the Apocalypse Knight yawns, growing impatient with this debacle.

Shinn's attack was inadequate and weak, thus Wiergraf's response deals with this in inflicting no damage.

Lesson: Description, grammar and power = damage.
Don't expect a weak and poorly-spelt attack to do anything to your opponent.

Cheeze- Cheeze, or unorthodox, is defined as, among other things, inflicting damage and denying your opponent the chance to counter. Cheeze is looked down upon by most vets, and is highly liked by newbies and n00bs alike, although some vets prefer cheeze. Cheeze is a style that depends on creativity, imagination and a touch of brutality. In short, the most effective cheeze attacks are those that make the reader wince as he shares the victim's pain. Basic elementary Cheeze is defined as:
On offense:
Inflicting damage on your opponent with 100% hit rate, meaning any attack always hits.
Damage is determined by the attacker, not the defender.
Status effects may be automatically inflicted.

On defense:
Healing and recovering from enemy onslaughts

There are many variations of Cheeze, and they are all a headache to remember. Hopefully enough people will read this guide and use it to standardize somewhat the varying styles within a style, so to speak. Most Cheezers use what I like to call True Cheeze, an oxymoron yet a descriptive title. Basically this involves:
No killing until the end of the duel.
Inflicting damage yet not making your opponent's moves null and void.
Not automatically healing to full strength.
Not removing all status effects.
Controlling your opponent to a degree.

(Wiergraf attacking, Shinn Kuuro defending)
Wiergraf grabs Shinn by the throat and squeezes, his iron viselike grip crushing his weak foe's vertebrae into powder before slinging him onto the ground. With a quick motion Wiergraf withdraws his fearsome blade and, snapping his wrist buries the sharp sword into the skull of Shinn, skewering his brains and leaving him twitching on the ground, blood everywhere, the victim in intense and agonizing pain.

Ouch. That's gotta suck. In this attack Wiergraf absolutely brutalizes Shinn, breaking his neck and making his head into a human shish-ka-bob. Let's see how Shinn counters:

Shinn grits his teeth, the flames of pain eating away at every fiber in his body. With a trembling hand he manages to grasp the invading weapon and yells as he jerks it from his head, a column of crimson blood spurting out of the wound. His blood. Quickly muttering a Cure spell, he is somewhat rejunvenated, the gaping wound closing up enough to staunch the blood flow.

In this counter Shinn further describes his misery and heals himself. It must be noted that he didn't entirely heal his wound; he merely gave himself enough strength to carry on. That is a crucial element to True Cheeze, and brings up another substyle.

There's a style I despise called Hard Core Cheeze. I hate Hard Core. It causes battles to drag out with multipost attacks and only end when one fighter gives up. It requires a lot of endurance, a good point, but it's not as testing on someone's skills as Shinn or True or even other forms of Cheeze, and can be very, very annoying in a battle. Hard Core, with a few slight variations amongst different fighters, is:
Killing your opponent, most of the time frequently in a battle.
Automatically healing yourself fully.
Absorbing every attack.
Ignoring an attack.
Controlling your opponent very, very extensively.

Here's an example of Hard Core at it's finest(?).

Wiergraf grabs Shinn by the arm and twists, shattering the fool's limb into thousands of bone fragments. He then sweep-kicks his legs out from under him and slams him hard into the granite ground, snapping several ribs and knocking the wind out of him. Wiergraf then, with a gleam in his eye and a smirk on his lips, smoothly swings his withdrawn blade downwards in a deadly arc. The razor-sharp sword cleanly bites into and cuts through Shinn's neck, severing the head, blood gushing forth from dissected arteries. A last gasp of breath escapes from the severed windpipe, a crimson foam forming on the jagged edge, as Shinn expires.

Ooh...can't be good. I wonder what insurance covers that. Wier basically killed Shinn by decapitating him. Now Shinn will reply by finding some creative way of ressurrecting himself and then killing Wiergraf, starting the cycle all over again. *sigh* This is why I hate these endless battles in Hard Core. This is a fun style for some to play around with, but in a serious duel or tournament it's not acceptable. Here's another Hard Core attack:

Wiergraf outstretches his hand towards Shinn, and with a snapping of his fingers takes complete and utter control of Shinn. He mumbles a few words, and grins, as Kuuro begins weeping like a little girl.

That's embarassing. This kind of stuff happens all the time in Hard Core, and only those who are into this stuff like fighting in this style.

Mix- Alrighty, here comes my personal favorite. Mix is what you would call a blend between True and Cheeze. It combines the best elements of the two main styles in a way that fans of both would enjoy. It's somewhat hard to explain, though, and perhaps the best way would be through example.

Wiergraf withdraws his blade and leaps at Shinn, eyes blazing with fury. With a swift motion he spins 360 degrees and whips his right leg around. His foot collides into Shinn's face, snapping his head around violently as Wier's other foot smashes into his chest. Shinn is thrown backwards into a rock outcropping, and barely has time to look out as Wiergraf swings his mighty blade down towards his head.

See? Wiergraf connected with his two pre-attacks and inflicted damage before his main attack, which was done in the True style. Thus while he did Cheeze, he still allowed Shinn to counter the main attack. This style does have certain limitations, however, and must be used with caution. It certainly takes some time to get used to, but it can be quite fun to use.

Basically Mix fighters must follow this guidelines:
You may connect with your pre-attacks, or minor attacks that led up to the major offensive, but you cannot do too much damage with them. Just think of them as preps for the major attack.
On defense you must recognize any damage inflicted on you as well as defend and counter against the main onslaught.
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Grammar proper encourages it at least, good that. Kind of gory, it was. I know Ninjistu posted something, deleted it was.
 

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interesting! i never thought of this:

To determine if an attack is good enough, take into account spelling, grammar, punctuation, detail, and physics, or how the attack is unfolding.

usually i just let my characters take damage, either when i feel that it's not too good with their winning all the time, OR when the enemies they engage in are obviously more superior.
 
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usually I let my characters get hit and junk,but,anyway,I occasinally do something to block it.In Samurai vs. Ninja,you basically must revive,defend,attack,opr whatever it takes to keep the battle going.If your character is killed,then you can revive it and so on,so forth.......
 
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Hm... the only fight scenes I recall being in I was a dragon, which made me obviously superior physically. Once I was fighting this elf I had every reason to kill, so what I ended up doing was getting him in a hold and saying something dramatic to stall my killing him. Unfortunately, he didn't catch on and kept saying things to peeve my character... It was really hard not to kill him.

Another incident I was a dragon and everybody started having a "stab the dragon" fest (I hadn't posted in a while :sorry: ) so I crawled off and died. Later I came back to life though, because I was way to evil to make it that simple ;) . (Actually, I would have stayed dead, but the story kept on going so I had to come back to give it some conflict.)

I guess I focus more on what my character would do. One character I had would glare at you evilly and threaten to hit you over the head with a ladle (my fist RPG character! :D), while one of my current characters is more likely to get out of a situation through his problem solving skills. Since on this forum you're not supposed to kill each other, you don't have to worry about dying as much, or if you should kill somebody or not.

I don't know if I should really be posting here, since I've never had a real warrior type character that will run you through with a sword. (In fact, I don't think I've ever had a character with a physical weapon, unless a ladle counts. :D Wow, that's pretty crazy.)

P.S.: Maybe your posts wouldn't get deleted if you left out all the spurting blood and brains flying everywhere, but that's just a thought.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean, WoF. I don't see how my post matches up with this, I'm not sure if you are praising me or calling me some sort of a hypocrite... IIRC, I wrote more than "the elves were slaughtered" to describe the battle, that was merely to simplify the goings-on in a long post...

Of course, you are assuming that i am smarter than I am. I don't know what you where saying. Or did you mean bad spelling, or something?
 
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