NOELLE DUNPHY -VS- RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI

[Hans Blaster]

Actually, by May 18, 2019, Trump had yet to be impeached at all.

He was two months away from the "perfect call" that got him impeached.

Just because it all mashes together, the complaint mentions a meeting with Lev Parnas of the Rudy-Ukraine operations to get stuff on Hunter Biden.

 

[disciple Clint]

Yes. If he just threatened those things then guiliani is still a great person!
See, when the victim has the inner strength to avoid his machinations it actually reflects BETTER on him!


Because that's how manipulating and trying to treating women like sex slaves works with some Republicans.

it is no different with some of the other party now is it? How soon some people forget.

If Biden were Trump he would’ve committed multiple crimes by now. Fortunately for us, he is interested in actually governing, not exploiting his position for making millions.

Trump had only been impeached once by this stage of his presidency.

Biden is most interested in advancing his family business, that has been his primary interest for years and years.

 

[disciple Clint]

Actually, no, as pieces of the evidence were in the court filing and have been released (some of the text messages). So we know they have some evidence. The fact they haven't released it publicly (as is common with court cases) does not mean they do not have it.

Once again accepting something as "evidence" without evaluating it is foolish. It is evidence after it has held up to challenges if in fact it can hold up.

 

[disciple Clint]

And went through the process.

what process is it that you believe was not followed??

 

[SimplyMe]

Once again accepting something as "evidence" without evaluating it is foolish. It is evidence after it has held up to challenges if in fact it can hold up.

Again, I'm just telling you what their court filing claims -- and lawyers are typically smart enough to not put false information into court filings, it is the type of thing that gets them sanctioned. How strong the evidence is will be something that will be decided at trial.

 

[rambot]

it is no different with some of the other party now is it? How soon some people forget.

Nonsequitor with no reference points.

Biden is most interested in advancing his family business, that has been his primary interest for years and years.

His family business......
This is so fantastically imprecise I can't be bothered to comment on it.

 

[disciple Clint]

I do not know how often lawyers list evidence that later turns out to be inaccurate but I do know that one was convicted of a crime not long ago for providing false evidence. FBI Attorney Admits Altering Email Used for FISA Application During "Crossfire Hurricane" Investigation

 

[disciple Clint]

for those who have forgotten From an Anonymous Tip to an Impeachment: A Timeline of Key Moments in the Clinton-Lewinsky Scandal

 

[Ana the Ist]

This case filed in NY yesterday, 5/15/23, by an employee of Rudy Giulani for the following reasons:

"This lawsuit arises from unlawful abuses of power, wide-ranging sexual assault and harassment, wage theft, and other misconduct by Rudolph W. Giuliani and his Companies"​

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In that lawsuit one can read text messages by Rudy clearly enacting sexual harassment, however in this case we read this nugget:

"132. He also asked Ms. Dunphy if she knew anyone in need of a pardon, telling her that he was selling pardons for $2 million, which he and President Trump would split. He told Ms. Dunphy that she could refer individuals seeking pardons to him, so long as they did not go through “the normal channels” of the Office of the Pardon Attorney, because correspondence going to that office would be subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act."​

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Now granted with Rudy it's kind of hard to tell if that was him, or the scotch talking in his scheme towards Ms Dunphy, but surely if Rudy were Hunter Biden and Trump his father Joe, Comer and Jordan would be all over this. With that said, I don't think it would be beyond the pale to imagine something like this between Rudy and Trump, who has no sense of right and wrong if he stands to personally benefit. Personally given the way Trump did abuse the pardon process, this needs a looked at and legislation passed so ALL pardons go through the pardon process and reel in the abuses enacted by Trump.

These are pretty wild allegations.

Unfortunately, Russian hackers that spread disinformation told me this has all the earmarks of a US intel disinformation campaign.

I wasn't sure what to believe....so I asked this 17yo Eagle Scout who is an IT for his local ROTC because he has access to nuclear secrets and just about every other government related documentation....

All he was able to confirm was 2 things....

1. That is Giuliani's phone.
2. The phone got one of those gay pornography viruses back during the covid lock downs. It's possible it was hacked.

 

[rambot]

You ha e two examples of nonsense....and this is compelling, I guess.

So desperate to avoid mentioning Trump and his network of criminals, you being up a 30 year old president to prove the current problems in government.

 

[Say it aint so]

what process is it that you believe was not followed??

There is a process for pardons. That one.

 

[Say it aint so]

These are pretty wild allegations.

Unfortunately, Russian hackers that spread disinformation told me this has all the earmarks of a US intel disinformation campaign.

I wasn't sure what to believe....so I asked this 17yo Eagle Scout who is an IT for his local ROTC because he has access to nuclear secrets and just about every other government related documentation....

All he was able to confirm was 2 things....

1. That is Giuliani's phone.
2. The phone got one of those gay inappropriate contentography viruses back during the covid lock downs. It's possible it was hacked.

Two claims of such activities separate from one another. Same plot. Same amount.
Again, with Rudy it could be just his liqueur store subscription speaking.

 

[DaisyDay]

These are pretty wild allegations.

Unfortunately, Russian hackers that spread disinformation told me this has all the earmarks of a US intel disinformation campaign.

I wasn't sure what to believe....so I asked this 17yo Eagle Scout who is an IT for his local ROTC because he has access to nuclear secrets and just about every other government related documentation....

All he was able to confirm was 2 things....

1. That is Giuliani's phone.
2. The phone got one of those gay inappropriate contentography viruses back during the covid lock downs. It's possible it was hacked.

Oh look, a parody.

 

[Say it aint so]

Oh look, a parody.

...and a bad one.

 

[Say it aint so]

Just to add this nugget regarding Dunphy, which matches Steve Bannon's statement that Trump's plan if he lost, was to just declare the election was fraudulent before the election ever occurred.

"And while almost nothing about this horrifying suit is funny, there is one thing that legitimately is: “Giuliani asked Ms. Dunphy for help in Googling information about obstruction of justice, among other topics.” So is the fact that as far back as February 7, 2019, the then president’s personal lawyer allegedly told Dunphy “about a plan that had been prepared for if Trump lost the 2020 election. Specifically, Giuliani told Ms. Dunphy that Trump’s team would claim that there was ‘voter fraud’ and that Trump had actually won the election. This plan was discussed at several business meetings with Giuliani and Lev Parnas.”​

 

[NxNW]

Just to add this nugget regarding Dunphy, which matches Steve Bannon's statement that Trump's plan if he lost, was to just declare the election was fraudulent before the election ever occurred.

"And while almost nothing about this horrifying suit is funny, there is one thing that legitimately is: “Giuliani asked Ms. Dunphy for help in Googling information about obstruction of justice, among other topics.” So is the fact that as far back as February 7, 2019, the then president’s personal lawyer allegedly told Dunphy “about a plan that had been prepared for if Trump lost the 2020 election. Specifically, Giuliani told Ms. Dunphy that Trump’s team would claim that there was ‘voter fraud’ and that Trump had actually won the election. This plan was discussed at several business meetings with Giuliani and Lev Parnas.”​

That's downright deplorable!

 

[USincognito]

I do not know how often lawyers list evidence that later turns out to be inaccurate but I do know that one was convicted of a crime not long ago for providing false evidence. FBI Attorney Admits Altering Email Used for FISA Application During "Crossfire Hurricane" Investigation

Oh how ironic. He wasn't convicted nor did he plead guilty of "providing false evidence". Further he received probation.

 

[USincognito]

Are we because some things in that conversation are juvenile at best, I just pointed out a few, give it some thought.

So then none of them, since there is absolutely no proof that Rudy and Trump ever did any such thing, lets work with facts not what some might like the facts to be.

None of us know if that's true or not. Let's just see what happens as Ms. Dunfey's suit goes forward before making any pronouncements.

 

[Ana the Ist]

None of us know if that's true or not. Let's just see what happens as Ms. Dunfey's suit goes forward before making any pronouncements.

Is there some documentation of this? Recordings? Memos....emails....anything?


Or is this another woman who we're just expected to believe?

Again, I'm just telling you what their court filing claims -- and lawyers are typically smart enough to not put false information into court filings, it is the type of thing that gets them sanctioned. How strong the evidence is will be something that will be decided at trial.

Didn't you once tell me Giuliani was a cybersecurity expert lol?

 

[SimplyMe]

Is there some documentation of this? Recordings? Memos....emails....anything?


Or is this another woman who we're just expected to believe?

She claims to have texts and recordings, I believe a few of the texts have been released already. Again, I'm in wait and see mode.

Didn't you once tell me Giuliani was a cybersecurity expert lol?

So he claims, he owned a cybersecurity company. Trump even named Giuliani as an advisor for cybersecurity of his transition team.