Noah's Ark

[FenderElctrc]

I don't know if this goes here, but here's a site showing the discovery of Noah's Ark: http://arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm

 

[FallingWaters]

I don't know if this goes here, but here's a site showing the discovery of Noah's Ark: http://arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm

That site is put together by a Ron Wyatt devotee.

 

[FenderElctrc]

That site is put together by a Ron Wyatt devotee.

I have no clue who that is, but it describes the ark found and relates it to what is written in the Bible.

 

[mark kennedy]

I don't know if this goes here, but here's a site showing the discovery of Noah's Ark: http://arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm

All very interesting but even being a died in the wool literalist, I have to take this one with a grain of salt. By the way, this is the quote from Josephus mentioned in the article:

However, the Armenians call this place, (GREEK) (16) The Place of Descent; for the ark being saved in that place, its remains are shown there by the inhabitants to this day.​

Antiquities of the Jews - Book I by Josephus

 

[FallingWaters]

... By the way, this is the quote from Josephus mentioned in the article:

However, the Armenians call this place, (GREEK) (16) The Place of Descent; for the ark being saved in that place, its remains are shown there by the inhabitants to this day.​

Antiquities of the Jews - Book I by Josephus

Is that cool or what?!

Wouldn't it be neat if we could find it?

 

[FenderElctrc]

Guys, I'm just posting the link. I thought you guys might want to look at it. Please don't argue with me because I can't argue back. I haven't studied this subject too much.

 

[mark kennedy]

FenderElctrc,

I don't think anyone is trying to argue with you and you are right, it is an interesting article. Thanks for the link.

Is that cool or what?!

Wouldn't it be neat if we could find it?

Sure it would, I have seen this sort of thing from time to time and honestly, it's intriguing. What is really neat about this is that an historian is saying it is common knowledge where the Ark lays to this day (that is his day of course).

I wouldn't mind checking into this one, it does seem a strange place to find a barge of that size. Did you know that no seaworthy craft of that size was built until WWII? Except for the one Noah worked on for 120 years and guess what, the proportion of length, with and height as a ratio is identical.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[Mallon]

Friends, please prayerfully consider the evidence you will see on Noah's Ark. It may not be important or necessary for you to learn of this discovery, but there are millions of people who need confirmation of biblical artifacts in order to strengthen their faith in God and the Bible.

I would argue that rooting your faith in outlandish finds such as this probably isn't the best way to strengthen your spiritual convictions...

 

[Jase]

Guys, I'm just posting the link. I thought you guys might want to look at it. Please don't argue with me because I can't argue back. I haven't studied this subject too much.

The reason people are questioning this is because people have been claiming to have found Noah's Ark many many times. None of it is ever legitimate.

 

[crawfish]

I would argue that rooting your faith in outlandish finds such as this probably isn't the best way to strengthen your spiritual convictions...

When I became a monk, I believed the monk's cowl
would make me holy.
Was I an arrogant fool?
Now they have made me a doctor of divinity,
and I'm tempted to believe
that this scholar's robe will make me wise.
Well, God once spoke through the mouth of an ass.
Perhaps he's about to do so again.
But I'll tell you straight what I think.
Who here has been to Rome?
Did you buy an indulgence? No?

I did.

For a silver florin, I freed
my grandfather from Purgatory.
For twice that, I could have sprung
grandma and Uncle Marcus too,
but I didn't have the funds,
so they had to stay in the hot place.
As for myself, the priests assured me
that by gazing at sacred relics,
I could cut down my time in Purgatory.
Luckily for me, Rome had enough nails from the Holy Cross
to shoe every horse in Saxony.
But there are relics
elsewhere in Christendom.
Eighteen out of twelve apostles
are buried in Spain.
And yet here in Wittenberg,
we have the pick of the crop...
bread from the Last Supper,
milk from the Virgin's breast,
a thorn that pierced Christ's brow on Calvary,
and other bits of sacred bone,
all authenticated sacred relics.
Even John Tetzel himself...
Inquisitor of Poland and Saxony,
seller of indulgences
extraordinary,
connoisseur of relics,
envies our collection:
To possess them for a single night,
he would willingly surrender
five years of his earthly life:
Or years in Purgatory.

 

[archaeologist]

Guys, I'm just posting the link. I thought you guys might want to look at it. Please don't argue with me because I can't argue back. I haven't studied this subject too much

read the 'noah's ark found', thread in the biblical archaeology section. there is a link there that has anarticle written by someone who worked with ron wyatt. in it he says that wyat probably suffered from a rare disease which allowed him to develope stories, believe them as true though they were not.

 

[FallingWaters]

Guys, I'm just posting the link. I thought you guys might want to look at it. Please don't argue with me because I can't argue back. I haven't studied this subject too much.

No deep study is involved.
The link you posted refers to work done by a "mis-informed person".
Don't believe any of it.

 

[christianchris21]

the ark is out there. the bible says its on mt arat in turkey. its most likely frozen under the snow on top.

 

[Assyrian]

It actually says the hills of Ararat not mount Ararat. there are a couple of problems with this identification. Mount Ararat only got that name after the Old Testament was written. There are other references to Ararat in the OT, the kingdom of Ararat in 2Kings 19:37, Isaiah 37:38 and Jer 51:27. This was the ancient kingdom of Urartu. The problem here is that the kingdom of Urartu was only around from 860 to 585 BC. The flood and the flood account would have been much earlier.

It may be that Ararat comes from the word arar to curse bitterly, and what we are told is that Noah landed in 'the cursed hills', a vivid description of the region after a flood like that.

 

[theIdi0t]

You know what I find quite sad? the quote from the website:

Friends, please prayerfully consider the evidence you will see on Noah's Ark. It may not be important or necessary for you to learn of this discovery, but there are millions of people who need confirmation of biblical artifacts in order to strengthen their faith in God and the Bible. Satan is strongly attacking this and other discoveries in order to deceive men of God's truth. All the false stories about finding Noah's ark were created by Satan to "muddy the water," and cause disbelief in the genuine.

It's sad that people feel the need to find wood to strengthen their faith. Who do you blame for building their faith on such temporal bread?

The writer goes on to blame Satan for "mudding the waters", without realizing that she (or he) is reprising the role of this Satan here. How dull are the eyes of these people? Think real hard about who is to blame for this phenomenon, this dulling of the eyes, this pursuit of temporal bread, this pursuit of a sign, and soon you will find the many Pharisees.

 

[archaeologist]

It's sad that people feel the need to find wood to strengthen their faith. Who do you blame for building their faith on such temporal bread

why is it sad? isn't that what theistic evolutionists do?

 

[Mallon]

why is it sad? isn't that what theistic evolutionists do?

Evolutionary creationists use science to learn about how the world works. That's what science is meant to do. We do not use it to validate our faith in God.

does not tell us anything about the existence of God.

 

[theIdi0t]

why is it sad? isn't that what theistic evolutionists do?

Perhaps that is your error brother.

Science is as irrelevant to my faith as calculus.

 

[archaeologist]

does not tell us anything about the existence of God.

sure it does. it tells us that something far more powerful than gravity created that force and made it function in a way that the world's smartest men could not figure it out. the book, Final Theory , speaks about gravity and the theories used to describe it.

 

[Mallon]

sure it does. it tells us that something far more powerful than gravity created that force and made it function in a way that the world's smartest men could not figure it out. the book, Final Theory , speaks about gravity and the theories used to describe it.

So... by your logic, something that is difficult to us to understand implies that a very intelligent creator must have made it.
Does that not also imply that something that is easy for us to understand must have been created by an unintelligent god? If you're going to apply that reasoning consistently, I think it does.
That sounds like god-of-the-gaps theology to me. I think it's weak theology.