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That is why I said the bible says nothing about a blue whale's tongue weighing more than an elephant. God expects you to deduce, induce and reduce information from the "bread crumbs" give already. If you are an erudite believer, you would understand a dead star coming upon the earth would cause seismic activity. If you were a physicist, you would know a dead star coming upon the earth would produce gravitational and electrodynamic perturbations what would cause breaking of "plates." This is not metaphysics as I said before; this is science. Go to your local physics department college and ask then what would happen if a Jovian mass came upon the earth.

Why is there no geological record? EVERYONE DIED EXCEPT EIGHT PEOPLE. And there are petroglyphs. How much more doom do you want? They made petryglyphs because they figured those would survive. Even submerged rock is still ROCK with engravings.

 
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I think reading his posts is enough of a demonstration.
Good, bow out, since I am enough demonstration.

Yes, and if he was a scientist he would know that.

It is easy to claim you are something. Your work can demonstrate if you are that something or not.

You do understand that the things I post on this website would, with good funding and much more thorough scientific expression, would be a scholarly article (with correct up-keeping.) Your country is the one that makes you pay for access to scholarly articles, and then you complain that I don't give you scientific transparency thorough "essays?"

Lollerskates,

It is a reasonable request to present the evidence for a claim you make.

It is bhsmte, but I don't feel comfortable giving evidence in the age of google, when a conversation is multi-spiritual (atheist/agnostic vs. Christian) and diverse in "science." Forget that, I know what I had to go through to research to have arguments on this thread. I don't feel comfortable giving up well-worked-for knowledge just to have it argued down. Why indulge in more argument? Everything I said can be looked up on google, except maybe Wormwood. As I said, I had access to those documents while at Columbia; maybe extensive search can find them.
 
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Why is there no geological record? EVERYONE DIED EXCEPT EIGHT PEOPLE.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that when people are talking about a geologic record, they're talking about something someone wrote down. Is that what you're saying the 'geologic record' is?
 
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You logic in the last paragraph makes zero sense to me and quite frankly, sounds like simply avoiding anyone being critical of your evidence.
 
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And miss all this? No way.





Heh.

Like I said before, don't diminish yourself as a human. Do you have hands? Do you have eyes? Do you have a brain? Do you have 10 fingers?

Then you should be able to google everything I said to disprove me (or vindicate me.) I BEG you to prove me wrong (or right.) Go to school/MIT courseworks, become an "expert," and prove me wrong (or right). Superfluous claptrap ad hominem does not impress me. Stop being lazy; do work on google at least. Then come to me with an argument. I am all for intellectual debate.
 
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Have you seen the Fifth Element? They are basically begging people to be aware so that they have a challenge.

I've seen it. Thought it was okay. Maybe a little too flashy; I didn't care for the design too much, just too...gaudy. I want to say gaudy. And I thought the setup was a bit contrived, and I didn't care much for the villain. Good action scenes, though. And Mila Jovovich? Wow. Right in time for puberty.

But I digress - I'm a little lost. What does that have to do with this?
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that when people are talking about a geologic record, they're talking about something someone wrote down. Is that what you're saying the 'geologic record' is?


If I am being honest, I have no idea what people are saying when they spout geological record. That is why I bring up petroglyphs. I am not speaking for AV, but I agree with him when I bring up dead/decayed records. I don't know. I am trying to cover all bases because I do not assume. We can argue specifics later.
 
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You made the claim, you produce the evidence. This is not unreasonable. Besides, I'm here for the lulz.
 
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Oh dear god. He DOES think it's a written record.
 
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LOL you are disrespectful.

Nevermind the point (it will create more argument.) I am stuck on your synopsis of the movie. I thought it was great .

Hi-five for $10 words (you know what I am talking about.) I am glad people still use them.
 
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LOL you are disrespectful.

Really? I honestly wasn't trying to be, I apologize if I came off that way.

Nevermind the point (it will create more argument.) I am stuck on your synopsis of the movie. I thought it was great .

I mean, it was okay. For me, it's one of those movies that when you have the TV on while you're doing some work on the computer, you turn it TNT and it's playing - you check the other channels first, see if anything better is on, and if there's not, you go back and you watch it so you can have background noise.

You know. One of those movies.

Hi-five for $10 words (you know what I am talking about.)

I think I do. Every once in a while, words like that pop up in my head and I like to use them.
 
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If I am being honest, I have no idea what people are saying when they spout geological record.

They're talking about strata.

Geologic record - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The order in which layers are laid down over time. It's not a record that depends on anyone doing anything - even if human beings never walked this planet, there would still be a geologic record.
 
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You made the claim, you produce the evidence. This is not unreasonable. Besides, I'm here for the lulz.

Dude if you are here for teh lulz then you aren't an intellectual priority - not because you aren't intelligent, but because you are here for teh lulz.

As I said before, people can be lazy; we are in the age of google. You can look up the intricacies of Maxwell's Equations on Wiki right now; I had to go to school for that. Google/MIT open Courseworks are out there. The "you made the claim; you provide the proof" argument is ridiculous to me. If you appreciation your own advancement in knowledge, nothing would stop you from finding the Truth. That means someone saying "seemingly ridiculous" wouldn't stop you from finding it out yourself. Google is your friend. Encyclopedias are your friend. There is no excuse for ignorance.
 
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No, you are very much so reaching, and obtuse. Where did I say anything about written record? Quote me. I'll wait.
Wikipedia says:

Jesus makes a good point about stones ...

Luke 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

If the stones don't attest to God, and what He has done, then geologists need to keep working.

In addition, John the [fundamental, independent] Baptist said ...

Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

A clear reference to the instant creation of life.
 
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How can you be a scientist and state producing evidence for your claim is ridiculous? Does this excuse work in your professional life?
 
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Why is there no geological record? EVERYONE DIED EXCEPT EIGHT PEOPLE. And there are petroglyphs. How much more doom do you want? They made petryglyphs because they figured those would survive. Even submerged rock is still ROCK with engravings.

Wow, just wow.

So you have no idea what the Geologic Record is.

And what 'They' made petroglyphs 'because they figured those would survive'? Surely not Noah and his clan as they were building a ark. And just as surely no one else as everyone Noah told mocked him.

Or do you think as the rain started falling someone said Oh ^$$*(& Noah was right, better make some rock carvings that might survive rather than trying to find a boat or even just something that floats for a slim chance to survive.

Heck thinking about it just how long did the Voyage of Columbus take? Or several other long voyages. Why wouldn't some sailor just starting out on a long voyage survive?
 
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Really? I honestly wasn't trying to be, I apologize if I came off that way.

No no, "disrespectful" for me is a comedic way of saying "oh no you didn't."




sigh. I do know those movies. I still watch them lol.

But I thought the fifth element was totes



I think I do. Every once in a while, words like that pop up in my head and I like to use them.

Me likewise.
 
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