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DeerGlow · Mar 18, 2017

I have read almost every thread about the unpardonable sin (I have spoken evil of the HS and attributes good things to the devil before, I can't ever tell my own thoughts from compulsions/intrusive ones), and selling your soul. Will reading one I said I'd sell my soul, named a price, and said I sealed it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I hoped there would be something undoubtedly refuting soul selling but all I got was confirmation I am likely bound for hell. I wish people had an answer other than "OCD doesn't count" but say it DOES count can I possibly be forgiven? Is my soul sealed to hell?

CrystalDragon · Mar 18, 2017

This is why beliefs like that cause fear.

You're not going to hell for thinking. Period.

sdowney717 · Mar 18, 2017

Numbers 30 comes to mind.
Christ is the head of His church.
When the wife (we are His bride) makes some vow binding herself by an oath, and the husband hears it, which Christ does, then Her husband can overrule all the wife has said and it is voided out.

“Or if a woman makes a vow to the Lord, and binds herself by some agreement while in her father’s house in her youth,"
..........
6 “If indeed she takes a husband, while bound by her vows or by a rash utterance from her lips by which she bound herself, 7 and her husband hears it, and makes no response to her on the day that he hears, then her vows shall stand, and her agreements by which she bound herself shall stand. 8 But if her husband overrules her on the day that he hears it, he shall make void her vow which she took and what she uttered with her lips, by which she bound herself, and the Lord will release her.

Recall Christ having become a curse for us who believe in Him, if so that you received the promise of the Spirit by faith in Him, then you are released by Him from your vows and curse you made foolishly.

Galatians 3:12-14New King James Version (NKJV)
12 Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”

13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

4x4toy · Mar 18, 2017

DeerGlow said:
I have read almost every thread about the unpardonable sin (I have spoken evil of the HS and attributes good things to the devil before, I can't ever tell my own thoughts from compulsions/intrusive ones), and selling your soul. Will reading one I said I'd sell my soul, named a price, and said I sealed it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I hoped there would be something undoubtedly refuting soul selling but all I got was confirmation I am likely bound for hell. I wish people had an answer other than "OCD doesn't count" but say it DOES count can I possibly be forgiven? Is my soul sealed to hell?

If you have a desire for Jesus, then you have hope .. Continue to renew your mind with scripture and rebuke the bad thoughts in Jesus name if it takes all day for 3 months .. I once had a spirit to tell me to 'kill them all, take a knife and kill them all' . It scared me that I could think something like that but it wasn't me but a demon spirit .. I have never thought such a thing and knew it was a fiery dart by the enemy .. When Jesus fasted 40 days and was tempted of the devil it was in spirit not face to face and Jesus knew and used scripture because his replies were all "it is written" .. You can have a powerful testimony and ministry to others if you fight through and learn the Word .. Do not go on feelings but faith in Jesus and his Word .. Prayers that you get tough and take the victory in Jesus name friend .. Be set free in Jesus name ..

vinsight4u · Mar 18, 2017

DeerGlow · Mar 18, 2017

vinsight4u said:
Consider why there is the year of Jubilee. It is because God has Israel as His
servants. They actually belong to Him. They were purchased. Christians are
purchased...redeemed by the blood of the Lamb/Jesus Christ. Christians are
redeemed. They are to glorify God.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

You have not stopped believing, right?
God knows the heart. He looks on our hearts. Like when He knew OT kings had
ones of pride.
Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.

I have in the past. I had a period of awful disbelief, does that mean I'm not saved?

vinsight4u · Mar 18, 2017

DeerGlow · Mar 18, 2017

vinsight4u said:
None of us can tell another that they are saved. We are to look at the fruits we bear.
Only God truly knows each heart.

I'm so scared God will reject me at the judgement. Please help me.

vinsight4u · Mar 18, 2017

DeerGlow · Mar 18, 2017

vinsight4u said:
What did you not believe or have doubts/confusion about?
the OT prophecy that a Prophet would come
that John the Baptist was His forerunner
Jesus Christ lived a sinless life/God in the flesh
He died as our Saviour/His blood paid the price for us
disciples/apostles/....prophets
hell/the lake of fire
eternal life
or what

I strayed from the faith. Thought none of it was real. That there was no God. It's sickening. I want to be saved.

vinsight4u · Mar 18, 2017

vinsight4u · Mar 18, 2017

vinsight4u · Mar 19, 2017

DeerGlow · Mar 19, 2017

vinsight4u said:
How about John? He had to be told not to worship an angel that was showing him things in the time of Revelation. The angel had been referring to God just before that type of thing happened. Not sure if John got confused or just what, but he actually fell down - to worship. The angel stopped the worship part before it took place. Worship seems to be words get said.

I'm not sure what you want me to take from this.

vinsight4u · Mar 19, 2017

DeerGlow · Mar 19, 2017

vinsight4u said:
Was just signing off till later today. Not sure if you went so far as to worship something else other than God. We have to keep our faith to be saved. Maybe think about why you started to look into other things. The NT tells us not to even
mention them/
Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

So I lost my salvation?

4x4toy · Mar 19, 2017

If you go back to thinking good works will save you instead of believing faith in Jesus will save you then Jesus sacrifice for you no longer can work in you .. If you are saved but fall into sin then your life will be miserable until you repent and return to the Lord .. I'ts called chastisement from the Father .. What father doesn't correct his son ? If you partake of the Lords supper unworthy which is unrepentant sin you will be punished even through sickness even leading to death if you persist in unrepentant sin .. We also experience valleys and low times to keep us moving forward and from becoming complacent .. You can be turned over to the devil for the destruction of your flesh but your soul will be saved if you are born again but in sin . Your mental torment is a warning to get right with God .. It is a serious thing and warning for you .. It is real and needs you full attention .. You are being tested . You've been told what you must do and how to get relief .. No one but you and God .. I've been where you are and Jesus lead me out though it wasn't pretty at the time .. Be still and know he is God ..

vinsight4u · Mar 19, 2017

DeerGlow · Mar 19, 2017

vinsight4u said:
I'm not the one to say. Was just telling you as to John and how he almost worshipped/two times/an angel/s. Do you figure he probably thought it in his mind
before he actually fell down before the angel? I don't know your past. All we can do here is show what the Bible says. There was something else I was going to talk to you about too that is in the Bible, but I forgot this time of coming here what it was.
I know one thing that have thought about in the past is how much would the wickeds do to Christians in the great tribulation, when they have the mark and realize they are doomed? What is to stop them from very horrible things to others?
You can't witness to them to get saved, not honestly. The truth then is that they would be lost and without mercy ever. Now, what if someone had thought they were saved many years earlier, then backslid, but refused the mark of the beast?
It just seems that different rules may apply for different times. In the OT, look at the life of Manasseh. What sin do he not commit as the king? Yet, he humbled himself before God and he was restored to his kingdom.

I just want to be saved. I don't know if I have saving faith.

GTW27 · Mar 19, 2017

DeerGlow said:
I just want to be saved. I don't know if I have saving faith.

Blessings in Christ Jesus! Are you busy right now? Do you have time to go down in prayer? Can we pray together right now? I want to agree with you in prayer if you have the time. Whenever I pray I ask The Lord to forgive my sins and for Him to cover me in His blood that He shed upon the cross. Then I let my petition be known unto Him. In this case it will be for you and with you if you agree.As soon as I am done writing this I will go pray for you.Faith is a gift and I am asking this in Jesus name for you will you agree?

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