No Proof

[HerbieHeadley]

No Proof

By Doug Hagmann


Part II of an investigative series

In the first part of this investigative report, background was provided to identify the core legal and constitutional arguments in the matter of Barack Hussein OBAMA II’s eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States. Using my investigative experience, I performed this investigation in compliance with the same “industry standards” that apply to performing background investigations of individuals selected for corporate positions by Fortune 100 companies.

“Certification of Live Birth” as proof
Arguments used to deflect the truth
Nomination without proof
Oddities surrounding the “Official Certification of Nomination” affidavits
Prior knowledge of eligibility problems
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[Goodtry]

 

[ReverendDG]

No Proof

By Doug Hagmann


Part II of an investigative series



“Certification of Live Birth” as proof
Arguments used to deflect the truth
Nomination without proof
Oddities surrounding the “Official Certification of Nomination” affidavits
Prior knowledge of eligibility problems
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everything you post is refuted any number of ways and as i posted 3 times now, what obama has given people is enough evidence for anyone, including the supreme court.
give it up!

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Your thread title pretty much applies to the whole Birther conspiracy theory there, Herbie. No proof.

But don't worry. No one died and made you arbiter of such things. The matter has already been resolved.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Why has no one mentioned this before!? I am completely and utterly suprised by this well-founded and evidenced theory.

 

[kermit]

The article states:

The Certification of Live Birth, even if authenticated, is not legally sufficient to be considered proof of citizenship and therefore, is legally insufficient to be prove the eligibility of Barack Hussein OBAMA II.

But the problem is that this is factually not true.

It then goes on to say:

Accordingly, the “long form,” or “vault copy” of the actual birth certificate needs to be released for the legal burden of proof to be satisfied.

The problem here is that if this were true then 12 out of 19 people would not be able to prove their citizenship as their "long form" has been lost by the state. Also, if what he said were true then why didn't states take more care as to not loose almost 60% of all "long forms"?

 

[kermit]

The article states:

The Certification of Live Birth, even if authenticated, is not legally sufficient to be considered proof of citizenship and therefore, is legally insufficient to be prove the eligibility of Barack Hussein OBAMA II.

But the problem is that this is factually not true.

It then goes on to say:

Accordingly, the “long form,” or “vault copy” of the actual birth certificate needs to be released for the legal burden of proof to be satisfied.

The problem here is that if this were true then 12 out of 19 people would not be able to prove their citizenship as their "long form" has been lost by the state. Also, if what he said were true then why didn't states take more care as to not loose almost 60% of all "long forms"?

 

[HerbieHeadley]

everything you post is refuted any number of ways and as i posted 3 times now, what obama has given people is enough evidence for anyone, including the supreme court.
give it up!

Would you like to discuss these “refuted any number ways” you posted, here, or there?
I was kind of hoping you, (and truthfully) others, would read the Part II and then comment.
You were not forgotten, I will reply to the disinformation you had posted.
　

 

[HerbieHeadley]

The article states:

But the problem is that this is factually not true.

Except it is factual truth.

It then goes on to say:

The problem here is that if this were true then 12 out of 19 people would not be able to prove their citizenship as their "long form" has been lost by the state. Also, if what he said were true then why didn't states take more care as to not loose almost 60% of all "long forms"?

Where do you get this information from. 12 of 19 people have hospitals and states tyhat loose almost 60% information of all "long forms"?

You got a link...

 

[kermit]

Except it is factual truth.


Where do you get this information from. 12 of 19 people have hospitals and states tyhat loose almost 60% information of all "long forms"?

You got a link...

Your the one who posted an article claiming that a CLB is insufficent to prove that you are a natural born citizen. Why don't you prove that claim first?

 

[HasturX]

"Birther" has the same ring as "truther".

Is that coincidence or are they fairly similar in tactics?

 

[USincognito]

Since HH never addresses it when I bring it up, I'll just keep pointing out that the long form birth certificate in every state I've seen so far does not say "birth certificate" at the top. It says "certificate of live birth" or "certification of live birth". In fact the long form example used on the Wikipedia page that, I guess, is supposed to show the difference says....

Except it is factual truth.

Only in Birtherstan.

 

[Voegelin]

My hunch is the financial predators who are running Obama have a dossier two feet thick on him. Should they need to pull the plug, all those things he is hiding will be splashed over the wires.

 

[Donkeytron]

My hunch is the financial predators who are running Obama have a dossier two feet thick on him. Should they need to pull the plug, all those things he is hiding will be splashed over the wires.

lol i like when you run out of dumb articles from right wing slander sites and are reduced to petulant speculation.

but hes totally from hawaii and not kenya, right?

 

[HerbieHeadley]

Podcast Interview Regarding Kerchner v. Obama et al Lawsuit | Jefferson's Rebels

This interview is about a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's eligility to serve as President. The plaintiff and his attorney discuss the merits of their case. This lawsuit is unique because it was intentionally filed hours before Obama was sworn into office so that Obama would have to defend himself as a private citizen. This tactic gives the plantiff unique standing.

Atty Mario Apuzzo and CDR Kerchner were guests on the Jeff Kuhner Show on WTNT 570 in Washington DC, hosted by Jeff Kuhner on Friday, 30 April 2010, at 1:00 p.m. EST.
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You can listen or download the podcast at the link above.

 

[tanzanos]

you woke me up for this? Oh well never mind....