Theres no point anymore to anything. I am going to hell and there is nothing that will ever change that. I know what it takes to be saved but i dont know how to trust, have faith, believe in my heart, accept or recieve. It wouldnt matter anyway because the unbelief in the existence of God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit never goes away. I find myself sinning all the time and not even feeling bad for it. I only feel bad because i know im supposed to and i dont which is proof that im not saved. There is no more hope for me. I cant do this anymore. I just dont know anymore.
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Of coarse there is a point
Let me ask you something. Do you have a habit of following your emotions and feelings? I know alot of people with OCD do...
When believing in the existance of God, do you lean more toward Science? Are you stuck in the realm of reasoning?
What exactly is it about God that is hard for you to believe that He exists?
I think these are important questions that need to be asked, and answered
...There is plenty of hope for you Trippe. You just may not see the big picture right now.
So let me ask you a question.
How do you get Saved? Born Again- of the Holy Spirit?
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Are you feeling like you are on the outside looking in, if so I felt that for years in the beginning. I didn't understand how a Father could have unconditional love since my Father died when I was 7, and had horrible abusive ones after that.
Unconditional love means, loving someone with out expecting something back in return. Christ died on the cross for you and the only thing He wants is for you to love Him.
He doesn't want us to come to Him perfect, but to come any way. Broken.. comes to mind for me. He in His time will do what He needs in you, not your time.
Perhaps maybe He is just wanting you to learn to find that trust. Let go of your own understanding of Him and take a walk in trust... Even the disciples had a hard time trusting Him and they saw His miracles first hand.
Not everyone comes into Christianity on fire for the Lord, we all come different ways. What helped me really see God working in my life at first was to write a letter to Him, all of my hopes and dreams of changes ect. I put it in a safe place and opened it a year later...Wow... He moves at times very slowly and gently so I was able to see His Hand at work in my life.
What ever you do is don't give up, have Hope in the Lord. Think of a baby learning to walk, many don't just get up and run right away do they.
It is called baby steps!
Unconditional love means, loving someone with out expecting something back in return. Christ died on the cross for you and the only thing He wants is for you to love Him.
He doesn't want us to come to Him perfect, but to come any way. Broken.. comes to mind for me. He in His time will do what He needs in you, not your time.
Perhaps maybe He is just wanting you to learn to find that trust. Let go of your own understanding of Him and take a walk in trust... Even the disciples had a hard time trusting Him and they saw His miracles first hand.
Not everyone comes into Christianity on fire for the Lord, we all come different ways. What helped me really see God working in my life at first was to write a letter to Him, all of my hopes and dreams of changes ect. I put it in a safe place and opened it a year later...Wow... He moves at times very slowly and gently so I was able to see His Hand at work in my life.
What ever you do is don't give up, have Hope in the Lord. Think of a baby learning to walk, many don't just get up and run right away do they.
It is called baby steps!
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Hey Trippe:
Let's just take a look at how contradicting and confusing your post is.
I am going to hell and there is nothing that will ever change that.
You have no proof that you are going to hell.
I know what it takes to be saved but i dont know how to trust, have faith, believe in my heart, accept or recieve.
Salvation isn't based in the emotional instability of your heart - it's based in the cross of Christ and His ability to save you. Your part is to choose to place your faith in Him. How do you do that? Commit your life to Him. Serve Him. Obey Him. Follow Him. Every one of these things is possible with or without the emotional validation that your OCD is demanding. Faith isn't a reassuring feeling it's a decision, a turning, a determined effort to walk in God's paths.
It wouldnt matter anyway because the unbelief in the existence of God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit never goes away.
If you disbelieve in the existence of God, Christ and the H. Spirit then what do you mean by the word "Hell" and why do you fear being seperated from that which you supposedly disbelieve?
I find myself sinning all the time
What in the world do you mean by "sinning"? Who are you sinning against? - God??? - but you said you didn't believe in God.
I only feel bad because i know im supposed to and i dont which is proof that im not saved.
So you feel bad that you don't feel bad which means you really do feel bad.... right?
There is no more hope for me. I cant do this anymore. I just dont know anymore.[/quote]
There is hope for you if you will only stop to realize that all this confusing and terrifying fog that you're in is the result of a very excruciating disorder called OCD.
Time to treat it as such.
Praying for you.
Mitzi
Let's just take a look at how contradicting and confusing your post is.
I am going to hell and there is nothing that will ever change that.
You have no proof that you are going to hell.
I know what it takes to be saved but i dont know how to trust, have faith, believe in my heart, accept or recieve.
Salvation isn't based in the emotional instability of your heart - it's based in the cross of Christ and His ability to save you. Your part is to choose to place your faith in Him. How do you do that? Commit your life to Him. Serve Him. Obey Him. Follow Him. Every one of these things is possible with or without the emotional validation that your OCD is demanding. Faith isn't a reassuring feeling it's a decision, a turning, a determined effort to walk in God's paths.
It wouldnt matter anyway because the unbelief in the existence of God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit never goes away.
If you disbelieve in the existence of God, Christ and the H. Spirit then what do you mean by the word "Hell" and why do you fear being seperated from that which you supposedly disbelieve?
I find myself sinning all the time
What in the world do you mean by "sinning"? Who are you sinning against? - God??? - but you said you didn't believe in God.
I only feel bad because i know im supposed to and i dont which is proof that im not saved.
So you feel bad that you don't feel bad which means you really do feel bad.... right?
There is no more hope for me. I cant do this anymore. I just dont know anymore.[/quote]
There is hope for you if you will only stop to realize that all this confusing and terrifying fog that you're in is the result of a very excruciating disorder called OCD.
Time to treat it as such.
Praying for you.
Mitzi
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Let me ask you something. Are you scared of going to hell? If so, you must believe there is a hell. Otherwise, why would you be scared of it?
Now, another point is that we are not saved because we *continue* to believe in Christ. We were saved the moment we first believed (or became convinced) that Jesus Christ is our ONLY hope of eternal life.
Was there ever a moment in your life when you became convinced that Jesus Christ is your ONLY hope of entering heaven? If so, we'll meet in heaven for sure.
We are not saved by turning from sin, we are saved by FAITH ALONE in Christ ALONE.
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