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Although I am sure that the religion of the original pagan worshipers of Mecca was more peaceful and humane than Islam.
LOL. You can't even tell us his name, let along his credentials.
Personally I don't value the opinions of Muslim clerics. I'm a Baha'i, remember? By 'credentials' I was looking for *academic* credentials which might establish his credibility in these matters. But it is pretty clear from that vid that he is nothing more than an Islamophobic Christian evangelist.
Really? Surely you can produce the texts in my religion which require this?
They were probably more peaceful and humane than you are, in any case.
You can't actually believe that can you? Accusing a person you have never met of being a potential killer just waiting for someone to bad mouth Islam (a religion they don't even practice) so they can off the person. How silly.I can't tell you his name because you'd try to kill him.
Uhm....actually, no. Islam was a major improvement upon the pagan religion and practices of the Arabs pre-islam. That's how messed up it was.
Uhm....actually, no. Islam was a major improvement upon the pagan religion and practices of the Arabs pre-islam. That's how messed up it was.
You can't actually believe that can you? Accusing a person you have never met of being a potential killer just waiting for someone to bad mouth Islam (a religion they don't even practice) so they can off the person. How silly.
The pre-islamic Arabs made my ancestors the Tatars of the Golden Horde (Mongols) look like a pack of Girls Scouts.
They were quite easily the most Barbaric people to ever walk the Earth. And that includes the Arab tribes that Claimed to be Jewish or Christian.
It was a very brutal land and home to very brutal people. In just 20 years the Qur'an united them and brought peace to the Arabian Peninsula.
I disagree. Nothing can be worst than Islam. Look at the way in which Muhammad's soldiers treated old people:
She was a very old woman, wife of Malik. Her daughter [and another] were also taken. Zayd ordered Qays to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly by putting a rope between her legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two). (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 980)
I am sure that old pagans were more merciful than this.
Look at what you are using as a Source.
You may want to learn that the writings of Ibn Ishaq were never saved. None of his works were preserved, what is passed down were copies of edited restored versions. Even Hisham admitted to filling in gaps as to what he thought Ibn Ishaq wrote.
While Ibn Ishaq is known to have written the first Biography of Muhammad(saws) it was destroyed before it was ever copied.
Here is a youtube video explaining the problems with Ibn Ishaq. It is on Youtube by an esteemed Islamic Scholar so it must be the true Muslim view.
If you disregard Ibn Ishaq you might as well disregard Muhammad, since all of the biographies of Muhammad are based on the work of Ibn Ishaq. This work survived in fragments that the rest of the biographers of Muhammad used to build their own versions.
Lies. In just 20 years you slaughtered countless innocent people in the name of your false religion. Now you are doing the same thing all over the world.
If you disregard Ibn Ishaq you might as well disregard Muhammad, since all of the biographies of Muhammad are based on the work of Ibn Ishaq. The work survived in fragments that the rest of the biographers of Muhammad used to build their own versions.
You said the magic words: to build their own versions.
To learn the History of Muhammad one reads the Ahadith, which pretty much detail every day of his life for the last 20 years of his life.
The Biographies based on Ibn Ishaq are quite unreliable.
You may know some Muslims that find them to be Credible, but I don't know of any.
It is sad as Ibn Ishaq probably did write a very accurate Biography.
Look at what you are using as a Source.
You may want to learn that the writings of Ibn Ishaq were never saved. None of his works were preserved, what is passed down were copies of edited restored versions. Even Hisham admitted to filling in gaps as to what he thought Ibn Ishaq wrote.
While Ibn Ishaq is known to have written the first Biography of Muhammad(saws) it was destroyed before it was ever copied.
Here is a youtube video explaining the problems with Ibn Ishaq. It is on Youtube by an esteemed Islamic Scholar so it must be the true Muslim view.
Islam teaches you to kill apostates and to kill those who criticize Islam. So, of course I can tell that she (or her brothers) are not trustworthy. Islam is about murder and rape. What good can come of you, people?
If you want to know the true face of your religion, watch this video. It is beautifully explained:
Fitna - Full movie - YouTube
It is an interesting Video. If you believe it to be true, I see that as your loss.
Like all videos produced by those with an agenda to destroy Islam, I find it as reliable as your concept of the "Black-Stone" Fragments.
So far I have not seen you post anything to indicate you have any knowledge of Islam.
But in fairness, before accepting Islam I too hated Islam with a passion and did believe all that I heard about it.
I find this video to be closer to the Truth than the Hate Videos are
I believe you are sincere in your hatred and that you do believe Islam to be Evil. I happen to find a different picture than what you see.
I just hope you do not become engulfed with hatred and allow hate to prevent your finding Beauty and Joy in this world.
I disagree. Nothing can be worst than Islam. Look at the way in which Muhammad's soldiers treated old people:
She was a very old woman, wife of Malik. Her daughter [and another] were also taken. Zayd ordered Qays to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly by putting a rope between her legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two). (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 980)
I am sure that old pagans were more merciful than this.
Jesus freed us from hate. If you knew the true God, you'd also be free from hatred.
I do not know of any Muslim who claims the Qur'an is original. We believe it is the same message that was given to all Prophets, Adam, Moses, Abraham, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad (Peace be upon all of them) it does not contain anything that was not revealed in the past.
Jesus freed us from hate. If you knew the true God, you'd also be free from hatred.
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