No moral justification

[dad]

Like being attacked. . . ?

They were not attacked by babies.

 

[dad]

Lebanon should know- you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

o it is fine to blow them ap as one wishes, I guess. I suggest flea medicine, not destroying a country.

No one is currently occupying Lebanon and anyone with common sense knows Israel have no such designs.

They seem to prefer temporary occupations there at the moment, and terror strikes, despite agreements as they feel might be cool.

 

[inhisdebt]

He and I come from a different spirit than you feel is of God, then. Fine with me.
I chose the Prince of Love and Peace that loves Lebanon's people.

Then how do you think God feels about those peaple from israel whom the leboneese where firing missiles at. That is what started the whole thing, Hezbollah fired missiles at israel as a diversion then crossed the border attacked an outpost killing 8 and taking two. Does israel not have a right to defend there peaple when attacked. Peace at all cost leads to slavery. And peace at your cost is unacceptable to man and God. Islam by definition is anti-christ and the presance of the Dome of the rock at the temple mount is an abomination to God. It was the remnant of the nations that israel did not destroy as God instructed them to when the moved into the land from egypt, that lead to the corruption and destruction of israel in the past. But God has promised to destroy those nations on his return, so indeed we do need to pray for the leboneese as there time left on earth is short, But the threat is not from israel as israel will be all but destroyed Again, but the lord will come to defend israel and he will destroy all nations who came against Israel.

 

[gwynedd1]

Then how do you think God feels about those peaple from israel whom the leboneese where firing missiles at. That is what started the whole thing, Hezbollah fired missiles at israel as a diversion then crossed the border attacked an outpost killing 8 and taking two. Does israel not have a right to defend there peaple when attacked. Peace at all cost leads to slavery. And peace at your cost is unacceptable to man and God. Islam by definition is anti-christ and the presance of the Dome of the rock at the temple mount is an abomination to God. It was the remnant of the nations that israel did not destroy as God instructed them to when the moved into the land from egypt, that lead to the corruption and destruction of israel in the past. But God has promised to destroy those nations on his return, so indeed we do need to pray for the leboneese as there time left on earth is short, But the threat is not from israel as israel will be all but destroyed Again, but the lord will come to defend israel and he will destroy all nations who came against Israel.

What I will never understand is if God says Israel is correct, then why do you then justify it? You would have to support Israel for even genocide wouldn't you?
God defends a remnant of Israel. We also have NO IDEA when this will happen. That is why follwers of Christ need to be peace makers and not those that nudge along God's plan and prophesy murder and all. Israel , is going to be judged along with those armies. That is why I stand against the IDF and Hezbollah. The scriptures abound in admonistions about peace and patience. I would gladly live in Iran than to mow down 9 innocents for every "bad guy" I bag.


Here it is. Sorry, the wisdom of the world will not be found in Jesus.
Matt 16

24] Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
[25] For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
[26] For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his sou

 

[CardinalBaseball]

They were not attacked by babies.

You're right, they weren't. They were attacked by terrorists.

 

[CardinalBaseball]

I heard that part of the reason was to give a demo to the Soviets. I think a demo may have been covincing to Japan as well, of an uninhabited place.

It was I agree. It was also used to end the war. But would the Japannese have stopped fighting because it happened with none of their own witnesses on (probably) an island in the middle of the Pacific?

Were not some defectors for example in airplanes Jewish, who gave secret info to the allie, and stuff? If so, how is it they were not gassed? Seems like some were OK.

You'd rather be the German Jew who got out to the UK or America right?

Israel bombed populated areas as well, no? Do Palestineans have all rights there, more than German Jews had? Did many have their groves uprooted, and hoses buldozed, etc? Did not tens of thousands get rounded up for the prisons? Many had entire families killed as well. How is this stuff better in one country or the other?

I'm sure Israel is killing all the civilians on purpose dad. But Hezbullah? No, of course not, they're just shooting rockets at random to hit nothing in particular in Israeli cities just for the sole purpose to kill anything under them. Did not millions get rounded up for the camps? Did not millions of Jews die in those same camps? Did not entire Jewish families get killed? I'm not saying what one country is doing is better than the other. The Germans weren't attacked by the Jews. Israel was attacked. And by what you're saying, Israel is commiting genocide like a mirror image of Nazi Germany, or it's worse than the Holocaust?

 

[BlessedGent]

I personally think these guys over in the middle east who are creating trouble for everyone else should be punished. granted some of you guys are gonna rebuke this with "we should love them" and "some of them could be innocent, and in fact yes we should but does a father let a child misbehave forever? these guys, or terrorists, need to be punished because they wont stop and think that this may be against God and that should not do it.its just me but i say let iraelites weed out the weeds. we dont know what God has in store for Israel so it would be dangerous to jump into this without investigating and prayer.

'xristos anesti'

 

[gwynedd1]

I personally think these guys over in the middle east who are creating trouble for everyone else should be punished. granted some of you guys are gonna rebuke this with "we should love them" and "some of them could be innocent, and in fact yes we should but does a father let a child misbehave forever? these guys, or terrorists, need to be punished because they wont stop and think that this may be against God and that should not do it.its just me but i say let iraelites weed out the weeds. we dont know what God has in store for Israel so it would be dangerous to jump into this without investigating and prayer.

'xristos anesti'

Don't take a side. Some people here want you to fight against "terrorists" and "Islamo-Facists". I am sure you will find a few who want to bomb Israel. Stay out of the "fight". Fight evil with the Gospel .

Rev 13
9: If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10: He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

 

[dad]

Then how do you think God feels about those peaple from israel whom the leboneese where firing missiles at.

I think even countries that occupy, and oppress have real people in them, and children, and etc. It is awful.

That is what started the whole thing, Hezbollah fired missiles at israel as a diversion then crossed the border attacked an outpost killing 8 and taking two.

I would think the whole thing started long ago, that was just a recent event. An event that saw a good part of a country destroyed. Later Israel broke the UN agreement, and attacked some things again. Does this mean that Israel shold have a good part of it wiped out?

Does israel not have a right to defend there peaple when attacked.

Not if defending means a terror far greater than that they are fighting.

Peace at all cost leads to slavery.

Not really, war leads to suffering, destruction, death, and waste, and slavery. If Israel left the whole middle east, for example, they still have Miami, and Europe, and etc etc etc! Where is the slavery there again?

And peace at your cost is unacceptable to man and God.

No, Nuclear worldwide war that the conflict leads to is what is not acceptable.

Islam by definition is anti-christ and the presance of the Dome of the rock at the temple mount is an abomination to God.

Yet there are more Arab than Israeli Christians! Look at the churches over there, who is in them? Or was I misinformed there?

It was the remnant of the nations that israel did not destroy as God instructed them to when the moved into the land from egypt, that lead to the corruption and destruction of israel in the past.

That is totally irellevant here, because Christians are now God's chosen.

But God has promised to destroy those nations on his return,

That is wrong. First He promises to bring the AC down to destroy Israel. Then He will stop the AC when he goes too far.

so indeed we do need to pray for the leboneese as there time left on earth is short, But the threat is not from israel as israel will be all but destroyed Again, but the lord will come to defend israel and he will destroy all nations who came against Israel.

Only because they are following the antichrist.

 

[dad]

...God defends a remnant of Israel. We also have NO IDEA when this will happen. That is why follwers of Christ need to be peace makers and not those that nudge along God's plan and prophesy murder and all. Israel , is going to be judged along with those armies. That is why I stand against the IDF and Hezbollah. The scriptures abound in admonistions about peace and patience.

Very good.

 

[dad]

I personally think these guys over in the middle east who are creating trouble for everyone else should be punished.

Those guys are on both sides.

...these guys, or terrorists, need to be punished because they wont stop and think that this may be against God and that should not do it.its just me but i say let iraelites weed out the weeds.

They are weeds as much as the next guy.

we dont know what God has in store for Israel so it would be dangerous to jump into this without investigating and prayer.

We do. It will be invaded from the north successfully.

 

[ContraMundum]

We do. It will be invaded from the north successfully.

I'd say that's a matter of interpretive opinion.

 

[dad]

I'd say that's a matter of interpretive opinion.

But would that be an informed opinion? Not a bible informed one, I would guess?