no evidence for evolution

[AV1611VET]

This thread is 15 years old...

I'll be 63 next month!

 

[Strathos]

I'll be 63 next month!

When you're 100 you'll still be bumping threads made when you were 50...

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I'll be 63 next month!

Early happy birthday!

 

[AV1611VET]

Early happy birthday!

Mucho gracias, mi amigo!

 

[joshua 1 9]

I'll be 63 next month!

I already turned 65. I would not have noticed except my phone rang off the hook with people trying to sell me supplemental insurance.

 

[FredVB]

If we're so close to Pan troglodyte, then why are we in two different genera?

I define "kind" as "genus."

That is a broad brush to use in describing what "kind" means. Even genus is used in a somewhat arbitrary way, other than in referring to the next grouping over species. But a superspecies and a subgenus could be the next grouping over species too. I will agree that often a "kind" corresponds to a genus. But in the case of humans, do you think the other species in what genus is recognized for us are our kind? I don't recognize it this way.

If chimpanzees were considered the same genus, I really wouldn't agree they are the same kind, but I don't see they are the same genus, and question why they are in the same family. Why wouldn't they be in their own family, and gorillas separate in their Gorillid family?

And still, why would Australopithecines or even "Homo erectus" be the same kind as us?

 

[AV1611VET]

4. similarites of all life forms: This is just as much evidence of a Common Designer as it is for common descent.

 

[pitabread]

It's kind of fascinating to see arguments made decades ago by creationists that haven' t changed one iota today. And they're still just as ineffectual today as they were then.

 

[AV1611VET]

And still, why would Australopithecines or even "Homo erectus" be the same kind as us?

It is possible that Australopithecine was a human being who was suffering from a bone-altering plague.


Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's kind of fascinating to see arguments made decades ago by creationists that haven' t changed one iota today. And they're still just as ineffectual today as they were then.

If we changed our arguments every time someone posted their particular brand of science, we'd all be atheists now.

 

[pitabread]

If we changed our arguments every time someone posted their particular brand of science, we'd all be atheists now.

If your belief in God relies on ignorance of the sciences that doesn't say much for your faith.

 

[AV1611VET]

If your belief in God relies on ignorance of the sciences that doesn't say much for your faith.

That's why my faith doesn't change arguments every time someone posts their particular brand of science.

My faith can accept science to a point:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Notice point #2?

It keeps science from becoming a runaway train that, if we accept, would eventually lead to atheism.

 

[pitabread]

It keeps science from becoming a runaway train that, if we accept, would eventually lead to atheism.

Which again doesn't speak particularly well of your own faith.

Your chart speaks to a belief based on Bibliolatry more than anything else. Though this does seem a common trend among creationists.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which again doesn't speak particularly well of your own faith.

Faith is believing something, even when science says otherwise.

Your chart speaks to a belief based on Bibliolatry more than anything else.

Oh, please.

Though this does seem a common trend among creationists.

Don't count on that.

More creationists are abandoning Point Two by the dozens.

And in fact, I've heard that Independent Fundamental Baptists are also.

It's almost like, "The last one out of Bibleville turn out the Light, please."

 

[pitabread]

Faith is believing something, even when science says otherwise.

Faith is not strictly contingent on rejecting science. If that's what faith means to you, then it only further speaks to a poor representation of faith.

Oh, please.

It's the impression you're conveying here. It comes across that your god is the Bible.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Happy belated 67th birthday, AV1611VET !

 

[AV1611VET]

Happy belated 67th birthday, AV1611VET !

Why, thank you, sir!

 

[Hans Blaster]

Happy belated 67th birthday, AV1611VET !

I thought he revived this thread 34 years to early. (See post 402.)