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[randman]

The ZZL is the off-topic site for UNC fans, but all are welcome.

http://pub93.ezboard.com/finsidecarolinafrm7.showMessage?topicID=3012.topic
http://pub93.ezboard.com/finsidecarolinafrm7

Sorry I haven't helped a little more the past few days, but some of these folks are the same crowd from Infidels. They do Carville proud. It gets silly after awhile arguing with them because it doesn't matter what you state. Take the fact they do beleive spontaneous generation occurred once. They spin, and claim victory, but
it 's all BS and a big waste of time. Evolution for some of these folks is a religion, and a false one that. Might as well be trying to convince a Moslem that Mohammed was wrong to marry a 9 year old. They've got some spin for anything, and don't even try to answer the substance of what you are saying most of the time.

 

[Jerry Smith]

Never run out of bluster I see... well I'm glad to find another board is having to endure their fair share of it. There is a thread waiting for you here:
http://www.christianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16190

 

[npetreley]

Originally posted by Jerry Smith
Never run out of bluster I see... well I'm glad to find another board is having to endure their fair share of it. There is a thread waiting for you here:
http://www.christianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16190

Yeah, and I'll see you after school in the playground, dude. And you better show up or I'll pound you anyway tomorrow.

Sheesh, that's what all your childish "personal threads" sound like, Jerry, which is why I never bother to read them.

 

[npetreley]

Originally posted by randman
The ZZL is the off-topic site for UNC fans, but all are welcome.

Cool. I just brought up the page. I'll browse thru the threads. I am ABD (all but dissertation toward doctorate) from UNC. Only it was University of Northern Colorado.

 

[Jerry Smith]

Originally posted by npetreley


Yeah, and I'll see you after school in the playground, dude. And you better show up or I'll pound you anyway tomorrow.

Sheesh, that's what all your childish "personal threads" sound like, Jerry, which is why I never bother to read them.

Cut out the bluster, hype, red herrings, staw men, and the claims that are false and/or unsubstantiated, and I won't have any pretext for posting those "personal" threads.

By the way, I don't know what you mean by "personal" - they don't discuss yours or anyone's personal life, but they do focus on the repeat offenses made by an individual "person". I guess it is in the second sense you mean "personal."

 

[OneLargeToe]

One thing I've learned from reading these boards over the past several months is that creationists make the worst Christians.

 

[Lanakila]

Originally posted by OneLargeToe
One thing I've learned from reading these boards over the past several months is that creationists make the worst Christians.

Not all of us. This remark is terribly offensive, I hope you know. Some of us creationists love God with all our heart, and love our neighbors. If our neighbor is in a burning building and we don't tell them the building is on fire and try to get them out, we are not loving that neighbor. Some neighbors don't believe their house is on fire, or get mad at us for telling them this, but the truth still remains. ( I hope you get the analogy)

 

[RufusAtticus]

Lanakila,

The problem many Christians have with creationists is that they make it an either/or position. I can either accept science, or I can believe in God. I can't do both. Like I said when you/your husband said that to me in another thread, if it is God or science, I choose science. Unlike God, there is actual evidence for the claims of science and it has had more impact in my life.

Now if you don't insist that I must reject science to accept God, you might have a shot at converting me.

 

[Lanakila]

Rufus I know that some Christians believe in evolution. Many aren't as informed as the ones that post on this board though. Many only believe it because thats what they were taught in school.

 

[Kittychan]

Rufus I know that some Christians believe in evolution. Many aren't as informed as the ones that post on this board though. Many only believe it because thats what they were taught in school.

True, but couldn't the same thing also be applied to creationism? I mean many people are creationists, because of what they were taught at home or in Christian school's.

 

[seebs]

Now if you don't insist that I must reject science to accept God, you might have a shot at converting me. [/B]

I may have to take you up on this some day. Tell ya what; if you ever have theological questions, and want to hear my answers, ask away.

I needed to accept a lot of science and math before I was confident enough in my evaluation of the world to start seriously evaluating claims of God.

 

[RufusAtticus]

Seebs,

I think my fiancee gets first shot.

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by RufusAtticus
Seebs,

I think my fiancee gets first shot.

Sure, but sometimes it's nice to get second opinions. I spend a lot of time asking the same questions of different people, because I get a lot of insights that way.

 

[Lanakila]

Now if you don't insist that I must reject science to accept God, you might have a shot at converting me.

I will never say you have to reject science to accept God. You may have to look at the same data with a different interpretation as I do, but not reject science. What is science but the study of facts of many aspects of nature (God's Creation). Science actually points to God.

Seebs I know you are a Christian who believes in evolution, but I have plenty of reasons to reject evolution (macro not micro).

 

[RufusAtticus]

Originally posted by Lanakila
I will never say you have to reject science to accept God.

That's exactly what you have done when you have urged me to accept God and reject evolution. Universial common descent and the evolutionary mechanims behind it are as much a scientific fact as a heliocentric solar system. Evolution-deniers are rejecting science.

Seebs I know you are a Christian who believes in evolution, but I have plenty of reasons to reject evolution (macro not micro).

You don't even reject macroevolution. You yourself said that "kinds" contain multiple species. (See my sig if you don't think that is an example of macroevolution.) Your reasons for rejecting evolution are religious, i.e. it is not part of God's plan. You try to support this rejection by using creationist works which also reject evolution for religious reasons.

At one time people rejected a heliocentric model because it wasn't part of God's plan. We all know the fate of the heliocentric model.

I urge you to stop being a fool and actually look at the science behind evolution. Reading creationists doesn't leave you with an accurate picture. No more than asking Castro about capitalism leaves you with an accurate picture.