Nicea why dont protestant churches accept all of the canons

[simonthezealot]

Sure, and afterward I can give some counter examples.

Young man, counter examples? a 1/2 dozen post ago you asked a series of questions with unequivocal NO as the answer... Your sadly mistaken my friend if you think this is truth! I am telling you ante-nicene fathers are no more "roman catholic" than I am! The primacy of Peter wasn't even a thought until 400-500. SHEESH!

 

[Trento]

You can twist your scrippture however you or newadvent chooses... HERE is the facts...

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And you can twist scripture anyway you want because you think you are infallible. Meanwhile We are up to 440 Ministers from just about every denomination who have found there way into the Catholic Church with another 950 inquiring. I guess that as Ministers with theological degrees they can't interpret scripture as well as you.

 

[simonthezealot]

[/indent]And you can twist scripture anyway you want because you think you are infallible. Meanwhile We are up to 440 Ministers from just about every denomination who have found there way into the Catholic Church with another 950 inquiring. I guess that as Ministers with theological degrees they can't interpret scripture as well as you.

I never said I was infallible! only scripture is!

.000000158 wow thats quite a high pecentage of Christians coming to the conclusion that they need the ritual sacraments of the CC.
Impressive stat Trento!

 

[Mary of Bethany]

Young man, counter examples? a 1/2 dozen post ago you asked a series of questions with unequivocal NO as the answer... Your sadly mistaken my friend if you think this is truth! I am telling you ante-nicene fathers are no more "roman catholic" than I am! The primacy of Peter wasn't even a thought until 400-500. SHEESH!

Since EC is Orthodox, not Roman Catholic, I kinda doubt that is the point he was trying to make!

Mary

 

[Gwenyfur]

Please remember the rules you agreed to when you joined CF

That means posting with courtesy and respect for everyone

 

[E.C.]

Young man, counter examples? a 1/2 dozen post ago you asked a series of questions with unequivocal NO as the answer... Your sadly mistaken my friend if you think this is truth! I am telling you ante-nicene fathers are no more "roman catholic" than I am! The primacy of Peter wasn't even a thought until 400-500. SHEESH!

Roman Catholic does not equal Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy does not equal Roman Catholic. Although up until a certain point the two do share an equal history.

I can not always recall names of people. I can recall what they may have done or said, but not always the names.

Perhaps there was a misunderstanding. Whenever I talk church history with Protestants, people that are usually brought up are those such as Luther, Calvin and others. I try to bring up stuff early fathers said and stuff that modern day Orthodox monastics say and show how much things have not changed. That was part of my strategy here.

Besides, on papal supremacy I find way to many errors along with a severe lack of real effective communication which was part of the reason why I am no longer Roman Catholic

 

[S Walch]

Perhaps there was a misunderstanding. Whenever I talk church history with Protestants, people that are usually brought up are those such as Luther, Calvin and others. I try to bring up stuff early fathers said and stuff that modern day Orthodox monastics say and show how much things have not changed. That was part of my strategy here.

But what about those of us that have read the ECF and have concluded that Orthodoxy (and Roman Catholicism - I know you're not the same (I prefer the EO)) isn't as "ECF" as they claim they are?

Besides, on papal supremacy I find way to many errors along with a severe lack of real effective communication which was part of the reason why I am no longer Roman Catholic

Agreed.

Hence why I'm no longer an Anglican. The Anglican Church is like the RCC but on a smaller scale, but their head is the Queen/King of England, and not some Pope.


Simon: Just take a step back, and calm down. You can argue your point without jumping down other peoples throat.

 

[simonthezealot]

But what about those of us that have read the ECF and have concluded that Orthodoxy (and Roman Catholicism - I know you're not the same (I prefer the EO)) isn't as "ECF" as they claim they are?


Hence why I'm no longer an Anglican. The Anglican Church is like the RCC but on a smaller scale, but their head is the Queen/King of England, and not some Pope.


Simon: Just take a step back, and calm down. You can argue your point without jumping down other peoples throat.

Thanks for making these points!
Apologies to those offended, I tend not to do well with what comes across as sweeping statements and knowing the ECF's, I see things vastly different than the people on here whom automatically assume that their POV jives with their current doctrine, when in reality it is very porous at best, unless pieced together and taken out of context in many cases and even I can do that to support my case!
Peace,
Simon

 

[E.C.]

But what about those of us that have read the ECF and have concluded that Orthodoxy (and Roman Catholicism - I know you're not the same (I prefer the EO)) isn't as "ECF" as they claim they are?

Can't say I've met one of those yet

Ah well, I can't find my sources now so we'll debate this another time!

 

[freespiritchurch]

Trento, I've got extensive theological training (ending with an MA in systematic theology) from Catholic seminaries and became a Protestant. Conversion of individuals, even smart ones doesn't prove a thing.

Your points about preaching as a priestly duty are interesting, and I will think about them. On the other hand, there's no sign that Paul saw himself as an elder commissioned by the church; he always described himself as an apostle, someone commissioned directly by the Lord.

Alan