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Newly Approved COVID-19 Vaccine Not Yet Available in US

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At any rate, it was just support for the claim that the Epoch Times has promoted conspiracy theories. Which they have.

Just because there's something you may find questionable doesn't make it a conspiracy theory, which is just another way of calling something "fake news", which is not allowed here.
 
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Just because there's something you may find questionable doesn't make it a conspiracy theory, which is just another way of calling something "fake news", which is not allowed here.

QAnon is a conspiracy theory and the Epoch Times has been promoting it. So that's that.
 
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QAnon is a conspiracy theory and the Epoch Times has been promoting it. So that's that.

Q Anon isn't a conspiracy theory. It's the name of a group.
 
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Looks like you wrote that to the wrong person.
Looks like you don't want to admit faults and deflect onto others. You generalized, I pointed it out, why is it so hard to admit you're being divisive?
 
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Q Anon isn't a conspiracy theory. It's the name of a group.
Pedantic quibbling: the name of the group can be identical with the conspiracy theory. Unless you want to name it specifically, in which case you get into some very awkward possibilities of what it might be titled (you know, the child related part).
 
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Wow, you didn't even read my post beyond what fit your narrative: I didn't get the Pfizer vaccine, I made that abundantly clear and even if I had, so what? The pedantic quibbling is trying to create a conspiracy where none exists based on a misunderstanding about how this has to be branded in the process, so the components are in essence the same and the composition is thus the same irrespective of the name, same as if you take a generic versus brand name medication otherwise.

"Does not appear" is code for you don't see it, thus it doesn't exist, which is a fallacy of ignorance

The source being demonstrably rooted in inaccuracies that could very likely be demonstrated is not poisoning the well, because we can also point out the inaccuracies in the article via the conflation and equivocation you're doing to try and suggest some secret that is being hidden without actually offering anything substantive, just vague specious and even just flat out desperate grasping at straws to avoid admitting you might be wrong. There's a term for that: confirmation bias, linked back to cognitive dissonance you're trying to avoid
 
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Q Anon isn't a conspiracy theory. It's the name of a group.

In common parlance, it's used to described conspiracy theories by QAnon. And really, this is picking at the tiniest of nits which doesn't change the fact that the Epoch Times has promoted conspiracy theories.
 
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Just because there's something you may find questionable doesn't make it a conspiracy theory, which is just another way of calling something "fake news", which is not allowed here.
Not remotely, because the latter is a more novel term, the former came about in the form we understand it today in the 60s after the JFK assassination.

And it isn't the questionable nature of the organization that is a motivating factor beyond suspicion, it's making broad brush strokes and finding links where there aren't any that's the issue: outright apophenia if you will.
 
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They are the same vaccine.


You are the one who can't seem to understand. It is pretty obvious that the Pfizer Bio-tech and Comirnaty are the same vaccine. They are interchangeable per the FDA.



Good grief - it has been provided.
 
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To a leftist extremist, everything moderate appears ultra-conservative.
Does sarcasm elude you all the time or just in a text based forum?

This petty deflection is getting old, plus the strawmanning to boot. Don't you have a new tactic?
 
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They are the same vaccine.



You are the one who can't seem to understand. It is pretty obvious that the Pfizer Bio-tech and Comirnaty are the same vaccine. They are interchangeable per the FDA.




Good grief - it has been provided.
How does the expression go about leading a horse to water? Seems appropriate here
 
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Looks like you don't want to admit faults and deflect onto others. You generalized, I pointed it out, why is it so hard to admit you're being divisive?

Who are you addressing here?
 
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Informative and accurate information, that one will discover to be true if he/she takes the time to do 'the research', as you have.

Until the new Comirnaty label is actually put on the injection, legally ... under FDA regulations ... Pfizer is not liable for any injection side effects, etc.

Many suspect, myself included, that Pfizer will not be in 'a big hurry' to repackage the injection any time soon, so as to continue to avoid any liability for injection injuries and deaths.
 
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Pedantic quibbling: the name of the group can be identical with the conspiracy theory. Unless you want to name it specifically, in which case you get into some very awkward possibilities of what it might be titled (you know, the child related part).

Actually, no. Otherwise, joe biden could be called the name of the Afghanistan pullout debacle, but it's not very good grammar.
 
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Does sarcasm elude you all the time or just in a text based forum?

This petty deflection is getting old, plus the strawmanning to boot. Don't you have a new tactic?

Sarcasm don't elude me at all. I even used it in my sig line.
 
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In common parlance, it's used to described conspiracy theories by QAnon.

More like a way of smearing an entire organization.

And really, this is picking at the tiniest of nits which doesn't change the fact that the Epoch Times has promoted conspiracy theories.

A claim is not a fact. Especially not the one against Epoch Times.
 
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Broad brush strokes such as labeling an entire organization as a conspiracy theory?
 
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They are the same vaccine.
Physically, chemically and biologically they are the same or very similar*. Legally they are distinct. And 'legally distinct' are the exact words used by the FDA. And for some reason the FDA don't seem very keen on elaborating on exactly what those legal distinctions are.

* subject to manufacturing tolerances, and slight differences caused by different equipment used at different manufacturing sites

You are the one who can't seem to understand. It is pretty obvious that the Pfizer Bio-tech and Comirnaty are the same vaccine. They are interchangeable per the FDA.
The text I've quoted above proves that the FDA and MSM have achieved their objective, of making people think there is no difference. I'm sure they're very pleased.

Good grief - it has been provided.
Really? All I saw was a load of posts from you and others that could best be described as a Genetic Logical Fallacy. Not once did I see any evidence to refute the Epoch Times's assertion that Comirnaty is currently unavailable.

So, for the last time. Can you prove that Comirnaty is currently available for administration in the US?
 
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Broad brush strokes such as labeling an entire organization as a conspiracy theory?
When the shoe fits. You keep trying to deflect any responsibility, it's more than a bit suspicious, like you want to act like QAnon has some "legitimacy" because maybe you agree with some of that and don't like it being called a conspiracy theory. Are you perhaps..."triggered"?
 
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