New thought about Pascal's Wager

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

Okay, so please tell how its possible you can know the outcome, mind, and heart of everyone in the past, present and future in addition to what is required for gaining faith in God? That would require some extraordinary supernatural powers of mind reading and God knows what else. Have you even gained faith in God yourself? I am seriously scratching my head here lol

You want to take that straw man down or you want me to.

I know human nature and people don't act the way you prescribed. Have any Atheists in here ever followed that guideline? I think not, so the preponderance of the evidence is in my favor.

You want to make light of this by your last statement and I will make light of you. Your entire line of responses have added up to a big fat Zero and I have responded to them, up until now with love and respect, even when you started dodging posts. Now you are down to sneering at me and I know full well where that is leading.

I have no desire to follow you down into where you, by your own words are leading us. You have a nice day. I'm out!

 

[Davian]

Now how would you know if religions deliver on their promises? In the case of Christianity I presume you have died and some how came back to life?

You did not address my question. Do you favour your religion because it makes better promises than the alternatives?

As for the promises made by your religion, the burden lies with you, not me, to establish their validity. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, all I can do is conclude that religion is all myth and ceremony.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

You did not address my question. Do you favour your religion because it makes better promises than the alternatives?

As for the promises made by your religion, the burden lies with you, not me, to establish their validity. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, all I can do is conclude that religion is all myth and ceremony.

Religion is a filter that the faithful view the world through. We Christians see the world in the same way. We do not under any circumstances need petty schemes to support our belief system and that is why I simply despise these so-called divinely orchestrated challenges. It puts a carnival tapestry on something that is meaningful to us all.

This is no game and people are not pawns for the contemplation of others personal fantasies. Most Christian's understand this and take peoples concerns into account. This PW is nothing more than a "Get Mikey to try it" commercial for everything that so many hold far too reverently than these game show tactics.

 

[Davian]

Religion is a filter that the faithful view the world through. We Christians see the world in the same way. We do not under any circumstances need petty schemes to support our belief system

In the time I have spent here, I have seen many and varied schemes trotted out in an attempt justify the many and often conflicting beliefs proffered in these forums, from Criliman's circular semantic butchery, to vast and intricate rationals for why this thing that they believe in cannot be defined or detected, probably because it isn't detected, or definable.

and that is why I simply despise these so-called divinely orchestrated challenges.

The way that religionists crash through this forum would lead me to believe that such efforts are completly lacking the coordination of some allegedly all-knowing-all-powerful deity.

It puts a carnival tapestry on something that is meaningful to us all.

A gong show without the gong. That is part of the appeal of this forum; on the more serious sites that I have been on, the religionist gets shut down in short order once they descend into preaching. Here, they just have to go easy on the apologetics.

This is no game

Sure it is. The proselytizing that continues in these threads is in conflict with this forum's statement of purpose; the religionist plays the game with the mods to see how far they can get before getting shut down.

and people are not pawns for the contemplation of others personal fantasies.

You lost me there.

Most Christian's understand this and take peoples concerns into account. This PW is nothing more than a "Get Mikey to try it" commercial for everything that so many hold far too reverently than these game show tactics.

It can be entertaining to watch, for me and my teenage children.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

New thought about pascals Wager? Without any confirmation or disconfirmation (of a probablistic inference) the odds are not 50/50, rather they are unknown...

E.g. "It rains of Europa", the odds epistemically (what we believe we know the odds to be) depend on evidence of water, cloud formation etc. Saying its 50/50 (will and wont rain) would be to assert odds without evidence.

When Drake and came up with the Drake equation, was the initial result 50% chance of life?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Without any confirmation or disconfirmation (of a probablistic inference) the odds are not 50/50, rather they are unknown...

Yep, that is exactly right.


eudaimonia,

Mark