New GOP efforts to make it harder to vote

[durangodawood]

R party, as usual, wants to secure a majority in government while representing an increasingly smaller minority of the actual population.

 

[rambot]

R party, as usual, wants to secure a majority in government while representing an increasingly smaller minority of the actual population.

Yes.


To be fair it's gotta be at least a bit worrisome when your political views are becoming increasing uncommon if not unwelcome.

 

[Erik Nelson]

62% of NC voters want Voter ID laws, as we voted to amend our state constitution to implement them. Where is our democracy now?

GA also:

State Senate in Georgia Passes Bill Requiring Photo ID for Absentee Voting

 

[TLK Valentine]

62% of NC voters want Voter ID laws, as we voted to amend our state constitution to implement them. Where is our democracy now?

67% of American voters want to raise the minimum wage.

76% of American voters support the DREAM Act/DACA

60% of American voters OPPOSE a border wall.

Where was our democracy ever?

 

[Erik Nelson]

Where was our democracy ever?

Not in surveys of a few thousand (out of hundreds of millions) asked vague questions only tangentially related to the "conclusions" thereby "justified" ?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Not in surveys of a few thousand (out of hundreds of millions)

If a few thousand cannot accurately reflect the mood of the people, then neither can a few dozen.

Which means your statement here:

GA also:

State Senate in Georgia Passes Bill Requiring Photo ID for Absentee Voting

Is incorrect, as we cannot know what the people of Georgia actually want.

 

[Pommer]

Not in surveys of a few thousand (out of hundreds of millions) asked vague questions only tangentially related to the "conclusions" thereby "justified" ?

Just because I don’t know how polling (and statistical analysis) works, it does not follow that nobody knows how they work.

 

[cow451]

GA also:

State Senate in Georgia Passes Bill Requiring Photo ID for Absentee Voting

You do realize that the REPUBLICAN legislature and Governor put the laws in place that they are whining about. Give me a break.

The GOP lost the two Senate races because Republicans stayed home after foolishly listening the EX President who convinced them that voting was futile (The Big Lie).

 

[Erik Nelson]

If a few thousand cannot accurately reflect the mood of the people, then neither can a few dozen.

GA's 56 State Senators are elected every 2 years and remain in constant active communication with their entire (collective) statewide constituency

Since you believe GA elections are completely fair, therefore you acknowledge that they are fairly elected every 2 years because they accurately reflect the mood of the people of GA

 

[Erik Nelson]

The GOP lost the two Senate races because Republicans stayed home after foolishly listening [to] the EX President...

...listening to Trump endorsing them live at large public rallies?

 

[cow451]

GA's 56 State Senators are elected every 2 years and remain in constant active communication with their entire (collective) statewide constituency

Since you believe GA elections are completely fair, therefore you acknowledge that they are fairly elected every 2 years because they accurately reflect the mood of the people of GA

You don’t believe the recent GA elections were fair? The Secretary of State, the Governor, the LT. Governor all said the elections were valid? Why isn’t that enough for you?

 

[cow451]

...listening to Trump endorsing them live at large public rallies?

Trump allies urge Georgia Republicans to sit out Senate runoffs

Trump’s rigged election rhetoric puts Georgia Republicans in a bind

'It is a cliffhanger': Republicans worry Trump's moves could depress turnout in Georgia Senate runoffs

Trump Drives A Wedge Among Georgia Republicans, Risking A Larger GOP Split

 

[Pommer]

Trump allies urge Georgia Republicans to sit out Senate runoffs

Trump’s rigged election rhetoric puts Georgia Republicans in a bind

'It is a cliffhanger': Republicans worry Trump's moves could depress turnout in Georgia Senate runoffs

Trump Drives A Wedge Among Georgia Republicans, Risking A Larger GOP Split

What? Nothing from rumble[dot]com?

 

[TLK Valentine]

GA's 56 State Senators are elected every 2 years and remain in constant active communication with their entire (collective) statewide constituency

So at what point did they ask the entire state of Georgia whether they wanted a particular law?

Since you believe GA elections are completely fair,

When did I say that?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Okay, this one doesn't make it harder to vote, but wow...

North Dakota Senate Passes Bill to Hide Future Presidential Vote Counts From Public View Until After Electoral College Meets

It would withhold the state’s vote count from the public and allow officials to only reveal the percentage of the total vote each candidate receives.

Ok, so we would know who won. So what's the purpose?

The bill is designed to prevent implementation of the national popular vote compact – a multi-state agreement aimed at circumventing the Electoral College.

Ah, we can't know who won the popular vote, if they don't make the vote totals available. Unless this catches on in more states, it's not likely to have much effect since there are fewer than a million people in all of North Dakota.

 

[cow451]

What? Nothing from rumble[dot]com?

No. I’m back on my reflux med.

 

[mark46]

GA also:

State Senate in Georgia Passes Bill Requiring Photo ID for Absentee Voting

I suspect that the majority of the state senate is GA would vote to exclude all African American votes if they could. They have set somewhat limited their goals.

It is unreasonable to consider this a case of democracy in action.
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That being said, I do favor a voter ID requirement, and also the free provision of ID's to every citizen.

 

[mark46]

You don’t believe the recent GA elections were fair? The Secretary of State, the Governor, the LT. Governor all said the elections were valid? Why isn’t that enough for you?

These were the same Republicans who have been responsible for major efforts of voter suppression for years, certainly when the governor was Secretary of State.

 

[TLK Valentine]

...listening to Trump endorsing them live at large public rallies?

Endorsing them to what point? The vote was rigged, remember?

 

[98cwitr]

67% of American voters want to raise the minimum wage.

76% of American voters support the DREAM Act/DACA

60% of American voters OPPOSE a border wall.

Where was our democracy ever?

Why would 16% of people support DACA AND the border wall? Seems quite contradictory. You can't poll <100k people (ie: Gallup) to test the pulse of 330M Americans. The sample size is too small. I would wager that the sample leans a certain way anyway, and doesn't truly represent the views (holistically) of the majority of Americans.