New Covenant

[MarkAnthony]

I don't think any of us truly KNOW how to get in ... We can
only hope that we know and ultimately qualify.. nothing is
assured in your life.. 100% acceptance of the Lamb is a
difficult task.. a lot of us fall back after repentance and
forgiveness..

This is a daily struggle for all of us. We are
no better off than the people of ISRAEL or PALESTINE as
CHRISTIANS... ISRAEL has suffered the most out of all of
us.. This is because I believe that GOD loves them the most
and the evil on this earth knows that and pursues them as
his Children.

Foreign occupation by the US and Russia and Europe and
Arabic nations would probably halt the fighting. There would
be so many people to retaliate against either country that
they would have to call a truce... I am talking about expensive
defense gadgets and equipment. Not just people. Battleships
tanks, air defense, subs, missiles so on.... if a weapon is
lifted on either side we take that group out immediately. In
the long run if they want to fight to the death they will die
before the innocent.

 

[Toms777]

I don't think any of us truly KNOW how to get in ... We can

only hope that we know and ultimately qualify.. nothing is
assured in your life.. 100% acceptance of the Lamb is a
difficult task.. a lot of us fall back after repentance and
forgiveness..

There is in fact assurance for those who are his.

1 Thess 1:5-8
5 For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake. 6 And you became followers of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit, 7 so that you became examples to all in Macedonia and Achaia who believe.
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Heb 6:11-12
11 And we desire that each one of you show the same diligence to the full assurance of hope until the end, 12 that you do not become sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
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Heb 10:19-22
19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
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How do we get in? Paul said that we will be judged and established by His gospel, when He wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Rom 2:16
16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
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Rom 16:25-27
25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began 26 but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith-- 27 to God, alone wise, be glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen.
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2 Tim 2:8-9
8 Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, 9 for which I suffer trouble as an evildoer, even to the point of chains; but the word of God is not chained.
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What is Paul's gospel?

1 Cor 15:1-8
15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you--unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles.
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In more detail straight from scripture, here is the gospel which brings us that assurance:


Rom 3:21-24
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
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Therefore without Jesus, we are all lost. What is the impact?

Rom 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death,
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The Saviour is to save us from the impact of our own sin and restore the right relationship with God. It is not God who has condemened us but we who have condemned ourselves throuigh sin.

So, if we need to be saved, by implication none who require a Saviour can be the Saviour. Thus we need to find someone who does not need a Saviour, one who is sinless, yet scripture says:

Rom 3:9-12
10 As it is written:
"There is none righteous, no, not one;
11 There is none who understands;
There is none who seeks after God.
12 They have all turned aside;
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So how does one find a Saviour? Let's see who is qualified.

Isa 43:3
3 For I am the LORD your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior;
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God is our Saviour. He is sinless. Are there others?

Hos 13:4
4 "Yet I am the LORD your God
Ever since the land of Egypt,
And you shall know no God but Me;
For there is no Savior besides Me.
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No, there is no one else qualified. There is but one way to the father.

John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
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Therefore if Jesus is the Saviour, he must be God in the flesh:

1 Tim 3:16
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
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But is there not another way?

John 3:3
3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
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No, you must be born again.

Because Jesus was born in the flesh to enter the world as a man, Jesus is called the Son of God. Why would God come to earth to die for rebellious mankind?

John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
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We also need to remember that as a man, He suffered all that we do and more, and it thus He knows our trials and tribulations. Further, He, as God, is merciful towards us because of His love and desired that none should perish.

Heb 2:17-18
17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.
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And what is the impact of receving Jesus Christ as Saviour?

John 3:36
36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
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Rom 5:10-12
11 And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

And this opportunity is open to all.

Rom 10:10-13
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For "whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved."
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And there is absolutely nothing that we as men can do to save ourselves:

Eph 2:8-9
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
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If you have not yet made the decision to receive Jesus as Saviour, please consider His invitation:

Rev 3:20-22
20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. 21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
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Remember what I said early that if one Saviour had finished the job, the rest would not be necessary?

John 19:30
30 So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.
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Thus, Jesus finished the job. But the story did not end.

1 Cor 15:3-8
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time.
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So Jesus was resurrected on the third day and is alive today and ready to receive those who call upon His name in truth and are ready to accept Him as Lord and Saviour.

John 3:16-19
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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May God bless those who read and listen to the words of the gospel from scripture.


I have assurance that I am in that book. If there is anyone reading this who does not have that assurance, but is only hoping to qualify, please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to help go through this in more detail so that you too can have absiolute assurance that your name is also written in the book.

 

[In Christ Forever]

I agree, it's a hard thing to watch..

........Biblically speaking: who's the next person to make peace with Israel?

We will have to wait for the "temple" to be built and this "prince" to come, wearing the Turban of the high priest[will have to be from the Tribe of Levi of course], then I assume he becomes wicked and makes a convenant with Death and Hades to make "peace".That will be the signal for the jews to "head for hills" as the Lord God then sends the "10 kings" of the north in with fire and hail to destroy him and his "henchmen" and the temple[again]. Until then, just walk with the Lord Jesus and keep the armor of God on. God bless.

ezekiel 21:25 'Now to you, O profane, wicked prince of Israel, whose day has come, whose iniquity [shall] end, 26 'thus says the Lord GOD: "Remove the turban, and take off the crown; Nothing [shall remain] the same. Exalt the humble, and humble the exalted. 27 Overthrown, overthrown, I will make it overthrown! It shall be no [longer,] Until He comes whose right it is, And I will give it [to Him."] '

Isaiah 28:14 Therefore hear the word of the LORD, you scornful men, Who rule this people who [are] in Jerusalem, 15 Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with Death, And with Hades we are in agreement. When the overflowing scourge passes through, It will not come to us, For we have made lies our refuge, And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves." 17 Also I will make justice the measuring line, And righteousness the plummet; The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, And the waters will overflow the hiding place.

hosea 8:14 Now He will remember their iniquity and punish their sins. They shall return to Egypt. 14 "For Israel has forgotten his Maker, And has built temples; Judah also has multiplied fortified cities; But I will send fire upon his cities, And it shall devour his palaces."

ephesian 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them. 8 For you were once darkness, but now [you are] light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose [them.]

 

[MarkAnthony]

Your interpretation of the scripture is incorrect. CRIST spoke in parables and synonyms. He summarized sprititual downfalls with tangible things so that people
would understand the spirit and relate to the abstract. A direct word for word
interpretation is religious extremism in any form and should be avoided as it is
taking a peaceful message to the destructive non-permanent world that we live
in. CHRIST preached live everlasting and this is obtained only through peace in
the material or physical realm.

 

[Brother Owl]

Your interpretation of the scripture is incorrect. CRIST spoke in parables and synonyms. He summarized sprititual downfalls with tangible things so that people
would understand the spirit and relate to the abstract. A direct word for word
interpretation is religious extremism in any form and should be avoided as it is
taking a peaceful message to the destructive non-permanent world that we live
in. CHRIST preached live everlasting and this is obtained only through peace in
the material or physical realm.

Not all prophecy is symbolic some can be interpreted as literal. We need to study to determine the differences. I agree this is not easy at times.

Sometimes only after a prophecy is accomplished can it be understood.

The prophecies regarding the crucifixion were very literal, were they not?

Blessings!
Brother Owl

 

[Toms777]

Not all prophecy is symbolic some can be interpreted as literal. We need to study to determine the differences. I agree this is not easy at times.

Sometimes only after a prophecy is accomplished can it be understood.

The prophecies regarding the crucifixion were very literal, were they not?

Blessings!
Brother Owl

That is correct. We must look at the context.

 

[MarkAnthony]

Today there is the real problem of religious extremeists using ancient prophesy
to spread fear and violence across the world. They interpret scripture or writings of people that were intended to do the same in their generation.

Nowhere in JESUS CHRIST's teachings did he spread fear or violence. The crucifiction was a prophesy about the death of himself to free the world of sin. This is the ultimate prophesy. The end to sin, fear and violence was a prophesy to spread peace and harmony between people and civilizations. Why has it not been taken as GOD's word then?

Other forms of extremeists take the CHRISTIAN message as destructive and a threat to their freedoms. These freedoms that they acknowledge are from the same GOD as JESUS CHRIST's prophesy is clearly an offense to GOD. They are killing and spreading fear in the hearts of men and this is not what GOD wanted to accomplish by sending his prophet JESUS CHRIST to the world. Satan has taken the hearts and souls of these people. Their freedom to commit these murders and offenses will not go unpunished. GOD himself is the
ultimate judge.

These people have destroyed the freedoms of their own people by doing this. How can the world accept a race of people or religion that self-fulfills their own prophesy to accomplish death and destruction? By killing innocent people ,children and soldiers of CHRIST they have convicted themself to hell.

Those that have died are GOD's chosen children and have a place with him in
heaven. GOD does not approve of murder for the sake of eternal life. Murder is by definition the killing of a defenseless non-violent, non-suspecting, GOD loving person that is a creation in the likeness of GOD himself. Terrorists are murderers. They already have been judged. To prophesy that they are justified in their actions is false prophesy and this is a tragic misinterpretation of scripture or GOD's word.

If a terrorist wanted to truly please GOD they should choose life eternal and
kill themself without taking any other sinners with them. The imperfect victims are made perfect by the murderous act of killing these innocent. Why would a person that believes that they are close to GOD take anyone elses word for truth besides GOD's word himself? Look at the life of CHRIST. He in effect was murdered and by being killed he took no lives with him. This is why he is regarded as the KING of KINGS in our modern world. He had a huge following at the time and he pleased GOD and his people by walking to his death without taking a single life.

This is what the terrorists need to do. They need to walk the same path as JESUS CHRIST to please GOD. They need to walk to their own death to achieve eternal life without taking a single life. If a man shows this compassion for GOD as his chosen, then clearly he is a son of GOD. Taking the lives of their own is also pleasing to GOD. Especially if the terrorist knows that another terrorist has murdered. They will excuse the sin of their fellow man and themself for knowing about the sin. Their eterrnal life in exchange for the sin is the price. They can not kill the innocent. They can not killl followers of CHRIST. They can not kill anyone but themselves. This is the only way for GOD to forgive them.

 

[Brother Owl]

Nowhere in JESUS CHRIST's teachings did he spread fear or violence. The crucifiction was a prophesy about the death of himself to free the world of sin. This is the ultimate prophesy. The end to sin, fear and violence was a prophesy to spread peace and harmony between people and civilizations. Why has it not been taken as GOD's word then?

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Mat 10:36 And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household.

I'm not really sure where you're coming from so I'm trying to tread softly. However, though I believe God ultimately desires peace amongst men. He himself kills those who refuse his Lordship.

We are in a battle on both the physical and spiritual plains. This is not an advocation of Christians to arms. I don't believe in a Christian Militia. It's not the function of Christianity to advocate physical violence. But Jesus was well aware that His Word would bring about death and violence. And it is by violence that the kingdom of God is moved forward (in the spiritual) on this earth.

God kills PEOPLE and ADVOCATES the DEATH of PEOPLE. It was certainly not the original intent (according to my understanding) but the inevitable result brought upon anyone man or angel that opposes God's will. We on this earth are caught in the crossfire of that battle both on the physical and the spiritual plains. As follower's of Christ the weapons of our warfare are spiritual and not physical. However, God ultimately rules over the affairs of men, even the death of His saints.

Blessings!
Brother Owl

 

[In Christ Forever]

Look at the life of CHRIST. He in effect was murdered and by being killed he took no lives with him. This is why he is regarded as the KING of KINGS in our modern world. He had a huge following at the time and he pleased GOD and his people by walking to his death without taking a single life.

You are right about Him not taking any lives with Him, it appears He left that up to His Father, which is what the bible also teaches us. It is not up to us to avenge or to hate, as those who curse us, God will curse.
The House of Levi is the one who handed Him over to be crucified, so indirectly, they suffered the ultimate punishment when God destroyed them and their Temple. God is with us. God bless brother in peace and love through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Malachi 3:1 "Behold, I send My messenger, And he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, Will suddenly come to His temple, Even the Messenger of the covenant, In whom you delight. Behold, He is coming," Says the LORD of hosts. 2 "But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He [is] like a refiner's fire And like launderer's soap. 3 He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver; He will purify the sons of Levi, And purge them as gold and silver, That they may offer to the LORD An offering in righteousness. 4 "Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem Will be pleasant to the LORD, As in the days of old, As in former years. 5 And I will come near you for judgment; I will be a swift witness Against sorcerers, Against adulterers, Against perjurers, Against those who exploit wage earners and widows and orphans, And against those who turn away an alien -- Because they do not fear Me," Says the LORD of hosts.

galat 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those [who are] Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

 

[Carlos Vigil]

I don't think any of us truly KNOW how to get in ...

This is a daily struggle for all of us. We are
no better off than the people of ISRAEL or PALESTINE as
CHRISTIANS...

there is ONE SIMPLE PLAN ... to get YOUR NAME written in the BOOK OF THE LIVING.....
Mark 1:15...
(1) "This is the time of fulfillment ...
(2) The Kingdom of God is at hand...
(3) REPENT !
(4) Believe the GOSPEL.

there you have it...
don't rush ahead. Above all, check every day to make sure you REPENT.

Mark. 16:"The man who believes THE GOSPEL and accepts BAPTISM will be saved; the man who refuses to believe THE GOSPEL
will be condemned."

"BELIEVE " means
"Thoroughly Love"...with your WHOLE Heart, Soul, Mind, and Strength.
(not mentally only) don't fall into that shallow trap:
"If you know it...you got it"

P.S. (Clue)... THE BLOOD of the Lamb... drink it , and eat his FLESH, with Faith, Hope, Love and Loyalty...
The Lamb keeps THE BOOK OF THE LIVING.

Lean(REST) HEAVILY on
(1) your BAPTISM
(2) The Body & Blood of the New Covenant
(3) The Gospel & Catechuenate
(4) Enjoy the Fellowship and your Witness.

if you are a baptized Catholic and you Believe your Baptism and are Thankful for it, You are WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE.

any one who cares little fot their Catholic Baptism... may end up like Esau...(Gen. 25:34), (Heb. 12:15-17)

Carlos

 

[Toms777]

there is ONE SIMPLE PLAN ... to get YOUR NAME written in the BOOK OF THE LIVING.....
Mark 1:15...
(1) "This is the time of fulfillment ...
(2) The Kingdom of God is at hand...
(3) REPENT !
(4) Believe the GOSPEL.

Not a bad suimmary.

if you are a baptized Catholic and you Believe your Baptism and are Thankful for it, You are WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE.

That represents another way to be saved, and a different gospel. It is only, that is only through receiving Jesus Christ as Saviour that one can be saved, no ritual, no organization, nothing else but the blood of Christ on the cross can provide for salvation.

No, this is not a Catholic / non-Catholic thread - would you please leave the denominationalism off this thread and stay on topic.

 

[Carlos Vigil]

Not a bad suimmary.


That represents another way to be saved, and a different gospel. It is only, that is only through receiving Jesus Christ as Saviour that one can be saved, no ritual, no organization, nothing else but the blood of Christ on the cross can provide for salvation.

"different Gospel"?...what I quoted is from Mark 1:15, & 16:16...so tell me,
different from what ?

Do you have access to The Blood of Christ on the cross ?
......if all you have is "The Blood of Christ on the cross"...and no tangible access, then you really have nothing...but lip service.
and I have never read anywhere that Jesus promises one can be "saved"
by "talking about" the Blood if Christ.

What He DOES SAY is; "All of you must drink from it...my blood, the blood of the New Covenant...for the forgiveness of sins."

Please notice that this is from the Gospel of Matthew 26:26-28...and not from "another Gospel".

No, this is not a Catholic / non-Catholic thread - would you please leave the denominationalism off this thread and stay on topic.

Is this your personal rule ...that you are imposing on all who participate in "GENERAL THEOLOGY"?

In my opinion, BAPTISM (in accord with Christ's command) is central to
THE NEW COVENANT...and without it... (last sentence in Mk. 16:16.)

your servant in Christ...

Carlos

 

[Toms777]

"different Gospel"?...what I quoted is from Mark 1:15, & 16:16...so tell me,
different from what ?

Do you have access to The Blood of Christ on the cross ?
......if all you have is "The Blood of Christ on the cross"...and no tangible access, then you really have nothing...but lip service.

The tangible accessible is that which Christ gave 2000 years ago when He died on the cross. That sacrifice ended it all for those who will receive Him in truth. No ritual, no organization, no building, and no man will chnage that, take away from it or add to it. No membership is necessary and Baptism will not take away your sins, only the blood 2000 years ago.

All men and women everywhere have tangible access to thake through prayer. Anything else is a differnet gospel.

and I have never read anywhere that Jesus promises one can be "saved" by "talking about" the Blood if Christ.

And no one said that here either so far as I can see. So please, no need to start strawman argumenst either.

What He DOES SAY is; "All of you must drink from it...my blood, the blood of the New Covenant...for the forgiveness of sins."

And he does explain that the flesh and blood do not save, and if you'd like to discuss this on a differnt thread, fine, but that is not the topic here.

Is this your personal rule ...that you are imposing on all who participate in "GENERAL THEOLOGY"?

I impose nothing, but there is a rule on the forum and I would think that generally showing respect for others would be adequate.

In my opinion, BAPTISM (in accord with Christ's command) is central to
THE NEW COVENANT...and without it... (last sentence in Mk. 16:16.)

Whether Baptism is essential is again off topic. Feel free to start a new thread.

 

[Brother Owl]

My Dear Friend Carlos,

I have to agree with Toms777 here. There is no ritual we can preform to get saved. Salvation comes through trusting in the work Christ did. Continuing to trust keeps God's Spirit flowing in our lives. Looking away or getting caught up in this world allows for weeds to grow in our lives and choke out the life of God.

Communion is something most Christians practice and is done in remembrance of Christ's sacrifice, is a solemn and holy affair not to be taken lightly: so solemn that taking communion in an unholy manner can bring sickness and death. But it is not required for salvation. The blood of the cross covers us and washes us clean from our sins. The communion cup is taken in solemn remembrance of that sacrifice.

Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake [it], and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

My friend we are justified by faith alone. Having faith and given the opportunity we should practice communion, however, it is faith (trust) in Christ which brings Salvation.

Rom 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12
For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Blessings Brother!

 

[Carlos Vigil]

My Dear Friend Carlos,

(A) I have to agree with Toms777 here. There is no ritual we can preform to get saved.

(B) Salvation comes through trusting in the work Christ did. Continuing to trust keeps God's Spirit flowing in our lives.

(C) Looking away or getting caught up in this world allows for weeds to grow in our lives and choke out the life of God.

Blessings Brother!

(A) Baptism is a ritual.
"The man who believes in the Gospel and accepts Baptism will be saved;
the man who refuses to believe in it will be condemned." (Mark 16:16)

(B) Anyone can say they "trust Christ" or the work He did...
but if you do not obey Him, will He trust you ?
besides...Baptism is a work HE DOES.

(C) Turning away from the Rituals (works) Christ set in place ...is in-itself
"Looking away" ...or becoming a weed, choking out the Life of God.


Courage, Peace, and TRUTH to you

Carlos

 

[BBAS 64]

(A) Baptism is a ritual.
"The man who believes in the Gospel and accepts Baptism will be saved;
the man who refuses to believe in it will be condemned." (Mark 16:16)

(B) Anyone can say they "trust Christ" or the work He did...
but if you do not obey Him, will He trust you ?
besides...Baptism is a work HE DOES.

(C) Turning away from the Rituals (works) Christ set in place ...is in-itself
"Looking away" ...or becoming a weed, choking out the Life of God.


Courage, Peace, and TRUTH to you

Carlos

Good Day, Carlos

Just to help around the issue of Mark 16:16.

Mar 16:16 he who hath believed, and hath been baptized, shall be saved; and he who hath not believed, shall be condemned.


"Hath Believed" what does this mean? I will give you a hint it is a past tense verb and is a conditional statement in light of the "and" XYZ.

Peace to u,

Bill
.

 

[Toms777]

Good Day, Carlos

Just to help around the issue of Mark 16:16.

Mar 16:16 he who hath believed, and hath been baptized, shall be saved; and he who hath not believed, shall be condemned.


"Hath Believed" what does this mean? I will give you a hint it is a past tense verb and is a conditional statement in light of the "and" XYZ.

Peace to u,

Bill
.

Note also that if the person does not believe, they are condemned. It says nothing about not being baptised. It is the belief which is the critical matter.

 

[Brother Owl]

(A) Baptism is a ritual.
"The man who believes in the Gospel and accepts Baptism will be saved;
the man who refuses to believe in it will be condemned." (Mark 16:16)

(B) Anyone can say they "trust Christ" or the work He did...
but if you do not obey Him, will He trust you ?
besides...Baptism is a work HE DOES.

(C) Turning away from the Rituals (works) Christ set in place ...is in-itself
"Looking away" ...or becoming a weed, choking out the Life of God.

Carlos

Carlos,

In a sense we agree I think we're looking at this from different perspectives. I agree if a man is saved he will by nature follow the commands of the Lord, baptism, communion, fellowship, preaching the gospel, prayer, praise, worship, etc., etc.

Conversely if a man disregards the commands and is disobedient by choice without repentance he puts himself in peril.

Blessings Brother!
Brother Owl

 

[Follower of Christ]

There have been some who have expressed the view that God made the New Covenant with the church. Yet scripture says:

Jer 31:31-33
31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-- 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
NKJV

The New Covenant is with Israel, not the church!

Jesus also said that He had come only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel......BUT......He then said He had sheep NOT of that fold that He must bring also......the Gentile.......

 

[Toms777]

Jesus also said that He had come only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel......BUT......He then said He had sheep NOT of that fold that He must bring also......the Gentile.......

Indeed. Romans 11 says that we are grafted, but natuiral to the tree. But the covenant was made with the Hebrew nation, not with the Gentiles. We are grafted in throuigh grace.