i was reading about how muslims respect jesus as one of the bigest prohets and how they acknowldge marys virgin birth sry if this is not the right plac to post this but im looking for insight on what u think also jesus never spoke about religone from the new tesmant i read in the bible maybe i have a different version and if i do have a differnt version that why are there different version of the bible also was just woundering cause i talk to other christians why is judas looked as evil so to speak even tho with out him jesus would of never die on the cross for us
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plz let me do a live chat otherwise yall are just slacking we got the same human mind come on
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ok here we go finally i can pm someone on my msgs cause i had to do this sry all i just need insight and im trying to find other christan experince come on we all in this together
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I don't know much about how muslims view Jesus, but I just wanted to say welcome to CF. You seemed so lonely in this thread! 
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sry if i seem lonely but i just seems like people dont want to accept what a human has made and i had thougt it was about god and god made no religone im glad u gave me ur mind and ur thouhgs lol sry if i mispell lol every thang is gravy tho and spelling doesent show how intelligent u are haha even tho i mess up at it tons of time i just love this world we be bless with we could end up with a totall black hole if any thang
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Elijah2
No weapons formed against me will prosper.
i was reading about how muslims respect jesus as one of the bigest prohets
Sad as it is so do some Christians. Sorry my dear brother, but our Lord Jesus Christ is our Almighty God. HE's no prophet!
and how they acknowldge marys virgin birth
Well, the most important thing, is what do you believe?
sry if this is not the right plac to post this but im looking for insight on what u think
Think what?
also jesus never spoke about religone from the new tesmant i read in the bible maybe i have a different version
The only religion that our Lord Jesus Christ came across the Jewish religion.
Followers of our Lord Jesus Christ are what they were and are today, believers of our Lord Jesus Christ, and they walk "The Way", the "narrow path". There is nothing about religion, man made the religion.
and if i do have a differnt version that why are there different version of the bible
There is only two versions of His Inspired Word and that is the Geneva Bible and the King James Version. The rest are misinterpreted, distorted and watered down versions to suit the "traditions of man", and the comfort zone of their followers.
also was just woundering cause i talk to other christians why is judas looked as evil so to speak even tho with out him jesus would of never die on the cross for us
Judas was evil, he allowed Satan to tempt him and to come into his life. He committed suicide.
Is that so, the Bible doesn't say that if it wasn't for Judas our Lord Jesus Christ sacrifice wouldn't happen. Mmmmm, that sounds a bit like the "doctrine of demons".
Sad as it is so do some Christians. Sorry my dear brother, but our Lord Jesus Christ is our Almighty God. HE's no prophet!
and how they acknowldge marys virgin birth
Well, the most important thing, is what do you believe?
sry if this is not the right plac to post this but im looking for insight on what u think
Think what?
also jesus never spoke about religone from the new tesmant i read in the bible maybe i have a different version
The only religion that our Lord Jesus Christ came across the Jewish religion.
Followers of our Lord Jesus Christ are what they were and are today, believers of our Lord Jesus Christ, and they walk "The Way", the "narrow path". There is nothing about religion, man made the religion.
and if i do have a differnt version that why are there different version of the bible
There is only two versions of His Inspired Word and that is the Geneva Bible and the King James Version. The rest are misinterpreted, distorted and watered down versions to suit the "traditions of man", and the comfort zone of their followers.
also was just woundering cause i talk to other christians why is judas looked as evil so to speak even tho with out him jesus would of never die on the cross for us
Judas was evil, he allowed Satan to tempt him and to come into his life. He committed suicide.
Is that so, the Bible doesn't say that if it wasn't for Judas our Lord Jesus Christ sacrifice wouldn't happen. Mmmmm, that sounds a bit like the "doctrine of demons".
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I think E2 meant to say Christ Jesus was a prophet but He was/is much more than a prophet. e2, correct me if I'm wrong.
Are you wanting to discuss the similarities and differences between the Islamic faith and Christianity?
Are you wanting to discuss the similarities and differences between the Islamic faith and Christianity?
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CShephard53
Somebody shut me up so I can live out loud!
Jesus never did mention anything about religions, though he did talk about false prophets and people coming in His name. Islam would fit that.
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Greetings friend ,
It seems fair to say that many offer respect regarding Jesus as being a major prophet , but therein equate him as being one of several select " great men " . But Scripture clearly tells us that Jesus is in a league all His Own !
Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. <-----> Colossians 1:12-20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. <-----> John 8:51-58
Religion simply put , is the code of beliefs / ethics with which one seeks to live their life by .
Good religion is good .
Bad religion is bad .
Religion itself is neither good or bad , the nature of each prospective version determines the value thereof .
Denominations are man made divisions / distinctions within the sphere of religious practice / pursuit .
Judas Iscariot is regarded with low esteem because his discipleship under Jesus was largely feigned , leading up to him being the one Satan could instigate to betray Jesus into the hands of those who sought to murder him . So , one could say this Judas was a false brother ... one who acted like he was for you , but deep down , he was against you .
Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein. <-----> John 12:3-6
Hence Judas Iscariot's role , though integrated into the Gospel of Christ , is one of dishonor .
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. <-----> John 6:70+71
Some Muslim's try to refute the writing of John in The Bible .
But the argument that a man's account is unreliable is a double edged sword - meaning if John is a fallible man , and therefore cannot be trusted , who among us is so infallible that we can declare this without being a bold faced hypocrite , who shouldn't be trusted ??!!
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. <-----> Jeremiah 17:5-10
Hope this helps with some needed insight .
And May The Lord Be Pleased !
wm
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Muslims believe that Jesus did born out of a virgin, did all kinds of miracles, healed and raised people from the dead. They even believe that he ascended into heaven.
What Muslim's DON'T believe is that Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead. Because Jesus claimed to be the Son of God.
The death and ressurrection of Jesus is God's way to say that He IS the Son of God, he died for our sins and everything Jesus said was true.
Muslims believe tha you will get into heaven by doing good deeds more than bad deeds in this life. But according to the Bible we get into heaven only by faith in Jesus as a risen Son of God.
What Muslim's DON'T believe is that Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead. Because Jesus claimed to be the Son of God.
The death and ressurrection of Jesus is God's way to say that He IS the Son of God, he died for our sins and everything Jesus said was true.
Muslims believe tha you will get into heaven by doing good deeds more than bad deeds in this life. But according to the Bible we get into heaven only by faith in Jesus as a risen Son of God.
Paul said:
The whole Christian faith is based on Jesus' death and ressurrection.Paul said:
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Yea , and it is through the power of Christ's Blood and Resurrection that truly good deeds are wrought in our life - not one's designed to selfishly obtain status or preeminence ; but those which serve to express gratitude in the humbleness of humility , knowing we , of ourselves , are unworthy and undeserving . This " righteousness by faith ", is designed to eliminate the strife of pride and the pretense of superiority over others ; and so restore the heavenly order , which has been temporarily disrupted by the misguided , egotistical efforts of those angels now falling .
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. <-----> Revelation 14:12-15
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. <-----> Revelation 12:3-9
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For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it? <-----> 1st Corinthians 4:7
Everything is a gift from God , all our abilities , our potential ... everything . And where more is given - more is expected : so that , having more is not necessarily better , than having received less . Allowing that , all may potentially be equally blessed , though callings + dispensations vary .
All our good deeds cannot earn us a place in heaven ; yet those who are bound there by faith , are also constrained to put away any evil from among themselves .
It might seem confusing ... but it helps to remember that God is solving a deceitful , rebellious , heavenly situation through Christ and His Work in us ; so that we can fill those places as shining examples of Christ's Uprightness - being both upright and meek , both righteous and humble , both wise and benevolent , both mighty and merciful , knowing that our " endowed greatness " , is for serving and uplifting others , not posturing and vaunting ourselves .
May The Lord Be Magnified !
wm
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