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It doesn't matter.Holiness does not come by abstinence,that is just living under the worlds crude notions,handle not,taste not.Col 2.Well, on a physical understanding and perpective I doubt very much that you can show that pork eaters die any faster than non-pork eaters.
I also don't recall where those supposed commands give you the authority to condemn other people using a physical measure of HEALTY eating as opposed to their not doing so. Were it just you and a pig on an island, your own appetite may serve your condemnation under that flag of obedience.
Pork and every animal contain spiritual correlations. SWINE MEAT is associated with the words of the DEVIL. So are all of the 'unclean' animals and other CRUSTACEANS etc. They are correlative and allegorical as Paul showed us in the N.T. with the OX treading out the wheat/muzzel LAW in connection with MEN preaching the Gospel. Paul understood ALL the laws in correlative spiritual fashion. They ALL have really about ZERO value in CONDEMNATION as it relates to man. The same LAW has much value in the condemnation of EVIL within and the causes thereof.
Throwing PEARLS before SWINE is throwing GODS WORD before DEVILS and expecting it to be understood when it will in fact be RESISTED.
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It doesn't matter.Holiness does not come by abstinence,that is just living under the worlds crude notions,handle not,taste not.Col 2.
1 Corinthians 8:8 Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do.
The kingdom of God is not a matter of food and drink,but righteousness,peace and Joy in the Holy Spirit.Frogster, what you are doing is LOOKING AT THEIR (LEGALIST) version of the Law and REJECTING that...and SO DO I reject 'their version.'
This does NOT mean however that the LAW is eradicated in ANY FORM on the basis of THEIR VERSION.
Do you understand that?
The kingdom of God is not a matter of food and drink,but righteousness,peace and Joy in the Holy Spirit.
It is true,holiness is not about abstinence.Unless you think that a basket making soul,eating bread and water,is holier than the next guy,because he has REALLY obstained.
There are many NT scriptures,that show we can eat all...Paul said it,Jesus said it.I thought you said,it is ALL the word of God?And again, you merely reject ANOTHER MANS VERSION of the LAW.
That has nothing to do with THE LAW being eradicated because it's NOT eradicated.
The Law stands, just as Jesus said it does, no matter WHICH MANS spin is put upon it. It still STANDS.
There are many NT scriptures,that show we can eat all...Paul said it,Jesus said it.I thought you said,it is ALL the word of God?
Could you please post some NT scripture that shows that we are not allowed to eat certain foods.
You have seen His Kingdom from a far off and rejoice in the light...And again, you merely reject ANOTHER MANS VERSION of the LAW.
That has nothing to do with THE LAW being eradicated because it's NOT eradicated.
The Law stands, just as Jesus said it does, no matter WHICH MANS spin is put upon it. It still STANDS.
Perhaps he does.You have seen His Kingdom from a far off and rejoice in the light...
Not many see what you are saying..
You have seen His Kingdom from a far off and rejoice in the light...
Not many see what you are saying..
Could you please show shom NT verses that prove we are to obstain from foods.That's RIGHT...so a physical understanding of that matter is irrelevant. The LAW is an internal matter of the working of Gods Laws in RESISTANCE to the presence of INDWELLING SIN and EVIL PRESENT. It has NOTHING to do with a piece of SWINE. The SWINE live in the HEARTS of men, ALL.
If I were to write 50 CUSS WORDS would you EAT THEM?
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You have a lot to learn about LAW....
Could you please show shom NT verses that prove we are to obstain from foods.
Ooops....I had posted this in the other thread by mistakeCould you please show shom NT verses that prove we are to obstain from foods.
frogger..like it!Ooops....I had posted this in the other thread by mistake
Hi frogger. Since you brought up "foods" you might be interested in this thread.
My bro "holo" was one of the best apologist I have seen concerning the Law and Commandments. I miss him
http://www.christianforums.com/t1383780/
unclean foods of the OT
He was also quite Active on one of the largest and controversial threads on GTfrogger..like it!
Well, on a physical understanding and perpective I doubt very much that you can show that pork eaters die any faster than non-pork eaters.
I also don't recall where those supposed commands give you the authority to condemn other people using a physical measure of HEALTY eating as opposed to their not doing so. Were it just you and a pig on an island, your own appetite may serve your condemnation under that flag of obedience.
Pork and every animal contain spiritual correlations. SWINE MEAT is associated with the words of the DEVIL. So are all of the 'unclean' animals and other CRUSTACEANS etc. They are correlative and allegorical as Paul showed us in the N.T. with the OX treading out the wheat/muzzel LAW in connection with MEN preaching the Gospel. Paul understood ALL the laws in correlative spiritual fashion. They ALL have really about ZERO value in CONDEMNATION as it relates to man. The same LAW has much value in the condemnation of EVIL within and the causes thereof.
Throwing PEARLS before SWINE is throwing GODS WORD before DEVILS and expecting it to be understood when it will in fact be RESISTED.
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Like I said it may be hard for some to understand, but God knows more than they do. I know vanity and pride make it impossible for man, on His own, and apart from God, to get it. Ro. 8:7
I know about throwing pearls before swine. By the way there is only one Devil.
But do pork eaters incur the Wrath of YHWH or go to Hell for eating it.
Show me where God declares which flesh shall be classified as food.Could you please show shom NT verses that prove we are to obstain from foods.
Could you please show shom NT verses that prove we are to obstain from foods.
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