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[Exist]

I'm wondering if anybody knows a site or something that will help me out.

I want every single Biblical verse for several different topics: God's omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolance, omnipresence. (and with time, I can find them all, but if you already know of a website or something that has them all listed, that would help out a lot).

Well, and some smaller ones.

I want verses from the Gospels (excluding John) back to Genesis that talk about Jesus or "The Messiah" whatever being God in flesh. Or even hinting at it.

I'm quite sure that the Bible is silent about when the soul enters the body, or when life starts, or anything like that, but if you have any verses that go against the abortion, I want em (and obviously I don't want any "Thou shall not murder" things.)

I want to know if there are any that say that God is outside of time or logic.



Now for opinion. Is there room for moral relativism (in the most basic of senses) in a Christian's world view? Before I go too much into that, I want some opinions.


And that's all for now.

 

[WashedClean]

Hi Exist

Here is a site that you might find helpful:

http://www.siscom.net/~direct/god/god's_attributes.htm

Regarding God viewing abortion as wrong, read the 139th Psalm. It talks about God knowing us before we were in our mother's womb. To me, this is the most pro-life verse in the Bible.

As far as moral relativism, I don't believe there is room for that in a Christian perspective. You can't logically live it out. Basically, everyone makes up their own rules. If that's the case, we don't need the law (not talking about the ten commandments, but the literal law). Policemen aren't needed to enforce the law, courtrooms can go away, etc.

As far as the messiah being God in the flesh, read John 1.

"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Jesus said "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end". This shows he exists outside time. God sees the future at the same time he sees the present and the past. This is impossible for our finite minds to understand.

Hope this helps a little. God bless you!

 

[bethdinsmore]

I noticed that "Capacity of God" in the site above had some more verses for you.

I've been unsuccessful at finding other sites. I'm sure Chafer's Systematic Theology would have plenty of verses for you in its Theology section.

And here are some I found in my old Bible Doctrines text by Cambron.

Omnipotence: Rev. 19:6, Mt. 19:26, Gen. 18:14a, Over nature: Ps. 33:6-9, Hag. 2:6, Gen. 1:1-3, Nahum 1:3-6, Over men: James 4:12-15, Ex. 4:11, Over angels: Dan. 4:35, Over Satan: Job 1:12 & 2:6, Rev. 20:2, 10, Lu. 22:31,32; Over Death: Eph. 1:19-21, Rev. 20:14

Omniscience, I John 3:20
of His inanimate nature: Ps. 147:4, Is. 40:28, of animals: Mt. 10:29; of humans: Mt. 6:8, Ps. 139:2, Ps. 94:11, I Chr. 28:9, Heb. 4:13, I Kings 8:39, Ps. 44:21, Acts 1:24, Ex. 3:7; of time: Acts 15:18, Heb. 4:13, I Pet. 1:20, I Kings 13:2, Is. 44:28, Jer. 1:5, Gal. 1:15-16, Ex. 3:19, Dan. 2:8; of all possibilities: Mt. 11:23, I Sam. 23:12, Is. 48:18;

Omnisapience" (all-wisdom - He knows the best way of securing the highest end) Rom. 11:33, Rom. 16:27, I Cor. 2:7, Eph. 1:8 and 3:10, I Tim. 1:17

Omnipresence: I Kings8:30, Jer. 23:24, Eph. 1:20, Rev. 21:2, Ex. 3:4, Ph. 2:5-8, John 14:16, 17, John 16:7,8

Eternity: Ps. 102:24-27, Ps. 90:4

Immutability: Mal. 3:6, Js. 1:17, Heb. 6:17

(As for His other attributes: all-loving, etc. I recommend Behold Your God by Alexander)

Hope this helps, friend.
Aloha in Jesus

 

[OttawaUk]

Gotquestions.org might be able to help you out a bit.

Moral relativism cannot be in harmony with God's Law.

OU

 

[CrazyforYeshua]

There's a few different verses that talk about Yeshua being God in the flesh, here's one:

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

 

[brotherChristian]

Moral relativism and the Christian world view... hmm. Well as a Christian I view the world regularly and I do see quite a bit of moral relativism. Now when you say 'in it's most basic sense,' do you mean something like a moral tao; or the day to day way in which we integrate morals into our lives. Because to Christians the former is most certainly non-subjective and there are no if's, and's or but's about that. The latter, however is very much subjective. It would be folly for anyone to believe that they live by a moral code in any way other than a subjective one. But the root of the code itself does not have to be subjective.

I wish you the best of luck in your search for knowledge and truth. God bless, Christian.

 

[DeaconDean]

I'm going to give you some links to reference material on what you are looking for please read them, it will help.

http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Attributes/attributes.htm

http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Sovereignty/sovereignty.htm

http://www.pbministries.org/books/gill/Doctrinal_Divinity/Book_5/book5_01.htm

http://www.pbministries.org/books/gill/Doctrinal_Divinity/Book_1/book1_08.htm

http://www.pbministries.org/books/gill/Doctrinal_Divinity/Book_1/book1_09.htm

 

[The Midge]

I'm wondering if anybody knows a site or something that will help me out.

I want every single Biblical verse for several different topics: God's omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolance, omnipresence. (and with time, I can find them all, but if you already know of a website or something that has them all listed, that would help out a lot).

Well, and some smaller ones.

Try www.biblegateway.com. This site has a search engine which allows you to look up individula words and phrases. You can also buy a topical bible such as Naves which lists by subject. You can get versions on CD to run off your computer form various bible software packages. You may like to try a theological encyclopedia for an introduction to doctrines or bible dictionary. These are available in electronic forms. They are worth an investment if you are serious about study.

The UK has an Open Theological College- which is part of the Open University. It is an online course and can help guide through some of the issues and is not as theologically partizan as many seminaries and schools. Expensive and time consuming- and they will ask you to buy books etc! http://www.glos.ac.uk/faculties/ehs/humanities/otc/index.cfm

I want verses from the Gospels (excluding John) back to Genesis that talk about Jesus or "The Messiah" whatever being God in flesh. Or even hinting at it.

Try searching for "emmanuel". You also need to look at the pericopes and sayings of Christ. His ability to forgive sins is a divine atttribute (Luke), he being the way to the father, seeing Jesus is seeing the father, Jesus acceptance of worship in a culture where worship must only be offered to God himself.

You also see different persons of God interacting at teh same time: Jesus' baptism, Jesus' paraying, the transfiguration, the temptation etc.

I'm quite sure that the Bible is silent about when the soul enters the body, or when life starts, or anything like that, but if you have any verses that go against the abortion, I want em (and obviously I don't want any "Thou shall not murder" things.)

There is a debate about abortion because of this. Abortion is not a key point in Christianity unlike the person of Christ. Look for "spirit" (a big one), breath (God breathes life into man in Genesis). Soul is refered to several times.

I want to know if there are any that say that God is outside of time or logic.

The bible was not written in the same culture as Greek logic. Job includes a passage where one of his firends say that it is impossible to comprehend God. But, as is often the case with Job's friend that isn't quite the whole truth. We can know God. But not interms of being infinite (we can't expereince infinity, or omni what ever (same again) but we can know God inperson. That is why the incarnation is so imporatant.

Now for opinion. Is there room for moral relativism (in the most basic of senses) in a Christian's world view? Before I go too much into that, I want some opinions.


And that's all for now.

Christianity can be lived out in any culture. Therefore it is possible for a Christian to drink but Christians should not drinnk when it is cultrally unaccpetable (e.g. in a muslim state where there is a law against alchohol). Evil is evil, and the teachings of Christ are against all evil. There is revelation about what is evil through shared natural law and also from revelation from God. The former is enough to show us all that we need repentance (literally to turn away from evil) the latter shows us the way God intended that we should live a good life and relate to each other through love.

 

[Mailman Dan]

http://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/browse.shtml

Here's a list of the most common questions people have, and where they are found in scripture.

Dan~~~>gained alot through it

 

[Exist]

Regarding God viewing abortion as wrong, read the 139th Psalm. It talks about God knowing us before we were in our mother's womb. To me, this is the most pro-life verse in the Bible.

I'm assuming you meant to say "anti-abortion", right? I know verses that are much more "pro-life" than that one (eh, I hate all the propoganda surrounding that issue....pro-life, pro-choice. I'm sure pro-abortionists like life, and anti-abortionists hate slavery. Whatever).

I don't see it being anti-abortion at all. He knew us BEFORE we were formed in the womb. Before we had a physical substance. This verse is talking about him being omniscience, to me. I mean, it doesn't say "Life starts in the womb". It says that he's known us even before the universe was created.

You can't logically live it out. Basically, everyone makes up their own rules.

You misunderstood. I meant "evil exists, but only in the eye of the beholder." We all have human eyes, and all human eyes were created by God, so it could still work. But evil to god is different than evil to humans, which is different than evil to Satan. There is no substance out there called "evil". It is only a perception.

As far as the messiah being God in the flesh, read John 1.

I said except for John.

Jesus said "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end". This shows he exists outside time. God sees the future at the same time he sees the present and the past. This is impossible for our finite minds to understand.

No, I don't think it does show that he exists outside of time. It says that he exists in time, and has existed for as long as time as existed (forever).

God sees the future at the same time he sees the present and the past.

He's omniscient, so he knows the future and past just as he knows the present, but where do you get that he sees the future and past just as he sees the present?

 

[Exist]

As for His other attributes: all-loving, etc. I recommend Behold Your God by Alexander

That's a book? I'm too poor to buy books when I can find the same information other places without spending money.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Ahh, I'm glad you reminded me of that one, thanks.

It would be folly for anyone to believe that they live by a moral code in any way other than a subjective one. But the root of the code itself does not have to be subjective.

That's actually exactly what I was talking about. That good and evil are perceptions only that exist only within thinking beings. What they see has "good" and "evil" however, has to do with their make up and origins (or, they have been defined by the being during thinking processes).

You can also buy...

Haha, sorry brother, but I can't. Money is too tight these parts. But I appreciate the thought.

His ability to forgive sins is a divine atttribute (Luke), he being the way to the father, seeing Jesus is seeing the father, Jesus acceptance of worship in a culture where worship must only be offered to God himself.

If you know the verses offhand, I'd really appreciate it. Or if anybody else does...?

There is a debate about abortion because of this. Abortion is not a key point in Christianity unlike the person of Christ. Look for "spirit" (a big one), breath (God breathes life into man in Genesis). Soul is refered to several times.

I actually don't really follow what you're saying. God breathes life into man....spirit....I've looked, and I still don't see it saying anything about when the spirit enters the body. :\

 

[Exist]

But not interms of being infinite (we can't expereince infinity, or omni what ever (same again)

We can't expereince it ourselves, but we can comprehend how it can happen. So you believe that God is within time and logic?

Therefore it is possible for a Christian to drink but Christians should not drinnk when it is cultrally unaccpetable

Why not? Jesus saw that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for Sabbath, and went against the cultural laws because he knew that it wasn't immoral to do so. Right?



And thanks everybody for helping. I'm still reading all the many links.

 

[The Midge]

We can't expereince it ourselves, but we can comprehend how it can happen. So you believe that God is within time and logic?

Can we comprehend it? it is 13 bilion billion miles to the edge of the universe as far as the Hubble Telescope could see. That number is so fast it can not be comprehended on a human scale. God is even bigger- so much so it makes me feel clse to the edge of known space by comparrison. We can theorise about God being infinite but we cannot expereince it and know it for ourselves. I doubt logic can frame something that is beyond human expereince and knowledge.

Why not? Jesus saw that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for Sabbath, and went against the cultural laws because he knew that it wasn't immoral to do so. Right?

Jesus did not excuse the disciples from observing the Sabbath, he contested a rule that that was pointlessly hard work to keep. The Sabbath is meant as a day of rest. You are right to say that when a culture is morally corrupt we should stand against it- Jesus stood against the corruption of a good pronciple. But it is not immoral to abstain from drink.
So it is morally right for a Christian not to shop on Sunday even though a consumeralist culture may promote it.

And thanks everybody for helping. I'm still reading all the many links.

Your welcome

 

[CrazyforYeshua]

Yeshua receiving worship:

Matthew 21:7 And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon.Matthew 21:8 And a very great multitude spread their garments in the way; others cut down branches from the trees, and strawed them in the way.Matthew 21:9 And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.

then a few verses down:
Matthew 21:15 And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the son of David; they were sore displeased,Matthew 21:16 And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?

He was accepting the peoples praise, not directing it elsewhere.

 

[dvd_holc]

Here is great site that outlines 300 verses from OT being fulfilled in NT.
http://www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/jesusmessiah2.php

 

[linssue55]

I'm wondering if anybody knows a site or something that will help me out.

I want every single Biblical verse for several different topics: God's omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolance, omnipresence. (and with time, I can find them all, but if you already know of a website or something that has them all listed, that would help out a lot).

Well, and some smaller ones.

I want verses from the Gospels (excluding John) back to Genesis that talk about Jesus or "The Messiah" whatever being God in flesh. Or even hinting at it.

I'm quite sure that the Bible is silent about when the soul enters the body, or when life starts, or anything like that, but if you have any verses that go against the abortion, I want em (and obviously I don't want any "Thou shall not murder" things.)

I want to know if there are any that say that God is outside of time or logic.



Now for opinion. Is there room for moral relativism (in the most basic of senses) in a Christian's world view? Before I go too much into that, I want some opinions.


And that's all for now.

1. Definition: (Points 1-4).

....God is one in essence, yet three distinct persons.

....A. Unity of the Godhead; (Acts 17:29, Rom 1:20, Col 2:9)
....B. Three Persons of one substance, power and eternity;

........The Persons of The Godhead all have 10 distinct attributes:

........Omniscience: all knowing.
........Omnipotence: all power.
........Omnipresence: infinite presence.
........Sovereignty: Supreme Being of the Universe.
........Veracity: Truth.
........Immutablilty: Unchanging, "not subject to change or variation in quality or nature or form".
........Eternal Life: timeless existence without beginning or end.
........Justice: absolute fairness, equity, judgement.
........Righteousness: intrinsic Good, intergrity, honor, uprightness..
........Love: infinite capacity for affection, esteem, respect, and pleasure of same.

2. Full title of God; God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. (Matt 28:19, 2Cor 13:14)


3. Each Person of God possesses identical Divine attributes, making them co-equal one with the other. (Jn 10:30, 16:15).

4. When the Bible speaks of God as being One it is a reference to the essence which the Persons of the
....Godhead share, whereas the unique names of each Person speak of the individual Person, and not all three.

5. Analogy to Light; This is only an example

....A. Light is composed of three elements; Actinic, Liminiferous and Calorific.
....B. Application; Although light is perceived as one achromatic phenomenon, it possesses three exclusive
........properties, each of which is a parallel to one unique Person of God;
........(1) Actinic light is neither seen nor felt; The Father.
........(2) Luminiferous light is both seen and felt; The Son
........(2) Calorific light is felt, but not seen; The Holy Spirit

6. The Trinity in the Old Testement:

....A. Hebrew word "Elohim", plural. (Deut 6:4)
....B. The Father, 1st Person. (Gen 1:3, Isa 53:10)
....C. The Son, 2nd Person. (Gen 1:1, Cf. Jn 1:3, Col 1:16, Isa 53, 63:8, Micah 5:2)
....D. The Holy Spirit, 3rd Person. (Gen 1:2 w/Psa 104:30, Gen 41:38, Num 27:18, 1 Sam 16:13, Psa 139:7)

7. The Trinity in the New Testement:

......Emphasis is on the individual Persons of the Trinity as expressed in their unique roles in the
......Plan of God:

....A. The Father planned</B> salvation; (Isa 14:27, Jn 4:34, 5:17, 12:44, 1:24; 1Cor 8:6, Eph 3:11).
....B.The Son executes the plan of salvation; (Jn 4:34, 5:17, Heb 10:7).
....C. The Holy Spirit reveals the plan of salvation;
...........(1) To unbelievers; (Jn 16:8-11).
...........(2) To believers; (Jn 16:13,14; 1Cor 2;10).

9. Jesus Christ is the only visible member of The Godhead;
.........(Jn 1:18, 6:46; 1Yim 6:16, 1Jn 4:12).

10. Doctrine of Procession;

.....A. The Father sent the Son; (Jn 17:3, Gal 4:4).
.....B. The Father and Son sent the Holy Spirit; (Jn 14:26, 15:26).
.....C. Christ sends The Comforter; (Jn 16:7).