Navy SEALS Have No Security

[Imaginosis]

At the Navy Amphibious Base in Coronado, the public can easily view Navy SEALS training on public beaches. Doesn't this pose a security problem, an easy target for terrorist? Instead of terrorist/rebels waiting for SEALS to get to Iraqi/Afghanistan, why not attack them at their home base? SEALS are much easier targets training on public beaches, such as the one adjacent to the Hotel Del Coronado.

 

[Sybaris]

Were there SEALs in the twin towers?

 

[3girls2dogs]

At the Navy Amphibious Base in Coronado, the public can easily view Navy SEALS training on public beaches. Doesn't this pose a security problem, an easy target for terrorist? Instead of terrorist/rebels waiting for SEALS to get to Iraqi/Afghanistan, why not attack them at their home base? SEALS are much easier targets training on public beaches, such as the one adjacent to the Hotel Del Coronado.

Training happens in the middle of town here in Yuma. It's not like they don't know we train. I don't view it as a threat.

 

[Imaginosis]

Training happens in the middle of town here in Yuma. It's not like they don't know we train. I don't view it as a threat.

Why don't terrorist strike down town Yuma during military exercises? An easy target.

 

[3girls2dogs]

Because we are an active military facility. I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to get at. These are secure areas. Coronado is a Naval Base, Yuma is a Marine Corps Air Station. It isn't like we are all a bunch of lackeys here being sitting ducks.

What exactly is it that you are asking?

 

[Sybaris]

Why don't terrorist strike down town Yuma during military exercises? An easy target.

A question you would have to ask terrorists but I'll speculate.......

a) They don't have the infrastructure within the U.S. to do it.
b) It's not as easy as you think.
c) Attacking it wouldn't achieve their goals.

If you are going to attack something in the homeland of your enemy and you do not have a force of any appreciable size to do it with, what do you attack that would have the greatest effect? You attempt to destroy something that would have a huge economic, social, or political impact.

Read up on Insurgency's and 4th Generation Warfare.

 

[Imaginosis]

a) They don't have the infrastructure within the U.S. to do it.
b) It's not as easy as you think.
c) Attacking it wouldn't achieve their goals.

If you are going to attack something in the homeland of your enemy and you do not have a force of any appreciable size to do it with, what do you attack that would have the greatest effect? You attempt to destroy something that would have a huge economic, social, or political impact.

You make excellent points, but if a lone gun man can walk onto a college campus and kill many, then why can't a lone terrorist walk onto the public beach next to the Hotel Del Coronado where SEALS candidates frequently run by and start shooting? Wouldn't this have a devasting effect on the SEAL communities moral, not to mention disrupting training, resulting in less SEALS deployed to the Middle East? Also, SEAL commanders would probably consider public beaches unsafe for training. Thus, Navy Special Warefare would have to relocate to a secure location, further disrupting training, all because of ONE LONE GUN MAN.

 

[3girls2dogs]

You make excellent points, but if a lone gun man can walk onto a college campus and kill many, then why can't a lone terrorist walk onto the public beach next to the Hotel Del Coronado where SEALS candidates frequently run by and start shooting? Wouldn't this have a devasting effect on the SEAL communities moral, not to mention disrupting training, resulting in less SEALS deployed to the Middle East? Also, SEAL commanders would probably consider public beaches unsafe for training. Thus, Navy Special Warefare would have to relocate to a secure location, further disrupting training, all because of ONE LONE GUN MAN.

Yea, it doesn't work like that.

 

[3girls2dogs]

I just want to mention that everyone should use basic common sense when discussing opsec. I'm not comfortable with where this thread is headed right now, and I will be watching this closely.

 

[Billnew]

Were there SEALs in the twin towers?

You'll never know. Seals never appear until its to late to escape.

Alot of bases seem easy targets. and the "lone gunman" could kill some military people. Military in a peaceful situation are at the mercy of the loan violent person, because we can't defend against one person.

The loan gunman wouldn't get far.

I made one transmission during a situation(a bicyclist riding a bike without a light during dark, was upset at the Law enforcement person) and got 20 people to my building in 2-3 minutes, all armed(Air Force always have a mag in the weapon when on duty.)
He recieved a ticket for riding and it was signed by every person responding.

Each base is different, but they appear an easy target,
but everybase can arm the majority of people on base rather quickly.
And trained Seals are very good at adapting to the situation rather quickly, so they might get a couple, but they won't get far.

 

[mpok1519]

i wouldnt be worried.

 

[thecountrydoc]

Speaking as someone that is more than a little familiar Naval Ops in the San Diego County area, including Coronado, let me assure you that you have a greater risk of being struct by lightening during a church service than a Seal has of becoming the target of terrorist while training along the Coronado Silver Strand.

Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc

 

[jessesgirl]

Subscribing for monitoring purposes.

 

[Sybaris]

I just want to mention that everyone should use basic common sense when discussing opsec. I'm not comfortable with where this thread is headed right now, and I will be watching this closely.

Now THAT is funny!

 

[Gwenyfur]

Let's just say I really don't like where this thread is going...

While for tactical and operation training I can see the why/how one would like to speculate an attack

However, not on my watch

knock it off
or the thread will close.​

 

[Boss_BlueAngels]

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Sakaragi]

ok, so SEALS train in an area that's visible. Do you actually see them in their exercises?

Let me put it to you this way. When I was training in Camp Pendleton, you might see some recon guys. They'd be on a run maybe, or see them on the way to the chow hall or barracks or px or whatnot, but I never saw them training, despite that they were still in their training school.

However, I did "experience" their training, yet I never saw them. MCT, Field Exercise. We were in the hills, in a little pit. Our platoon keeping up security, watching for any movement in the distance, or anyone trying to infiltrate our little "base". We had around 70 Marines keeping security.

What happened? They snuck in anyway with all the security, they stole some gear, crawled through the hills right next to us, and lasered us(sniper fire).

So all in all, whether we see them or not, they'd still own, and I seriously doubt you can learn their tactics by just looking at them.

 

[selfintercession]

A lot of things could be easy targets -- there's no way to protect everything or everyone who needs to be protected. Don't let the paranoia freeze the free world up.

 

[NavyGuy7]

Also speaking about such things can unwittingly lead to information leaked, eheh.
I can see the mod's concerns, in a way.
But one lone gun man? It would be counter-productive, as all bases' security would be beefed up, and such and such, then any future planned attacks on bases would become taht much more difficult.
Common sense.

 

[selfintercession]

Also speaking about such things can unwittingly lead to information leaked, eheh.
I can see the mod's concerns, in a way.
But one lone gun man? It would be counter-productive, as all bases' security would be beefed up, and such and such, then any future planned attacks on bases would become taht much more difficult.
Common sense.

Please. This is like when they tell us not to discuss the type of equipment we use at the airport with the public when the info is 100% accessible online as long as you're willing to put a little research in.

This kind of info is not secret or even hard to find which is the cause of most of these people's concerns. Myself, I say we needto do our best to keep our people, our nations and our freedoms safe, but paranoia will only make that mission harder.