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There are billions of combinations of DNA that produce tomatos, fish, and monkeys. You don't need a specific genome to produce any species within those groups.
But but but it was finely tuned to still work if 40% of the fine tuning fails!
Your argument just proves fine tuning even more!
Isn't God's design so grand?
*takes another swig of diesel*
LM stop being absurd, your playing a semantics game of no consequence....we KNOW every individuals genome is unique and that that is why each individual is unique within their group, but nonetheless,at the same time, YES YOU DO!
You need a tomato genome...
and all varieties of tomato genomes ONLY produce tomatoes never papaya. You a fish genome...all varieties of fish genomes produce ONLY fish, and so on...
Variations even up to the alleged 40% still do not fail...because sharks STILL only reproduce other sharks and humans only other humans...and the variations are seemingly endless...
This seems to suggest that a chimp did produce an engineered gorilla.LM stop being absurd, your playing a semantics game of no consequence....we KNOW every individuals genome is unique and that that is why each individual is unique within their group, but nonetheless,at the same time, YES YOU DO!
You need a tomato genome...and all varieties of tomato genomes ONLY produce tomatoes never papaya. You a fish genome...all varieties of fish genomes produce ONLY fish, and so on...
A chimp genome ONLY produces chimps never spider monkeys or gorillas...they can only produce other chimps unless engineered by an outside intelligent force!
I don't think you understood my jab.Incredibly amazing...every individual's finger prints are unique (even identical twins) but every individual has fingerprints...amazing!!!! Variations even up to the alleged 40% still do not fail...because sharks STILL only reproduce other sharks and humans only other humans...and the variations are seemingly endless...
There is a specific set for each living thing. Are you saying that any living creature can have any old combination of amino acids that sequence into a code to make their individual components. Its the same for a set of machines or a bunch of cakes in a cake shop. They all have some similar ingredients but each has a specific set of ingredients that makes them turn out like they do. You couldn't just throw in a bunch of chemicals or baking ingredients into a pot and give it a mix then bake it hoping it would turn out correct. You have to measure each ingredient and combine them properly so that it gets the proper end result. This is similar to how each and every single life is made. None can be random mixtures of the individual nucleotides that make up our DNA.How can there be a specific set when different creatures have different sequences and they all are still functional creatures?
You keep saying that. I am not a biologist to know the detailed workings of this. But even though it differs wouldn't it still need to have the same specific makeup. JUst as there is variation within the same features of living things can there be variation within some proteins.I just showed you that yeast cytochrome c differs from human cytochrome c by 40%, and they are both still functional.
What are you meaning by 6billion sequences. Are you meaning 6 billion base pairs in a human cell. There are four bases in DNA, and their sequence spells out the information DNA carries. So these Base pairs can be like letters in language that write out the instructions to build humans. If there are spelling mistakes it can have a harmful effect. Though there are mechanisms to repair any damage the sequences or coded language has to be precise to make functional and fit living things. This will apply to all living things though the genetic language for each will be different according to the living creature that is made. But all living things will have a similar basic blueprint for life. Between humans the difference may be only 0.01%.How can there be an exact sequence when there are 6 billion different ones, and those are just the ones we know of.
So you admit the existence of dinosaurs, you're actually wrong about about them all being cold blooded. Bones have been found that indicate they have been both warm and cold blooded. Saying there's very little fossilized skin and then going onto make claims about sweat glands, is contradictory.
Still one more nail in coffin for creation. Dinosaurs ruled the Earth for millions of years and it was ideal for them, a lot longer than it will be ideal for us. Or are you going to tell us they perished by missing the Ark. Along with the other five billion species that have lived on Earth. As Noah only had space for 8 million.
Did you really mean to say dolphins are fish?
Still one more nail in coffin for creation. Dinosaurs ruled the Earth for millions of years and it was ideal for them, a lot longer than it will be ideal for us. Or are you going to tell us they perished by missing the Ark. Along with the other five billion species that have lived on Earth. As Noah only had space for 8 million.
It depends on the context. Anyone outside of modern circles of classification would say so.
So Steve is outside of modern circles?
Who knew?
More on Carson's understanding of science:
Ben Carson: Big Bang A Fairy Tale, Theory Of Evolution Encouraged By The Devil | Buzzfeed
What Carson is saying is nothing out of the ordinary for what any person who believes in creation or God may say. In fact his views on the Big bang are not controversial. Many ask the same question how can order come from chaos. Especially when you consider the fine tuning of the universe for life and the cosmological constant which has to be so precise that it defies chance for the creation of the universe. His view on how scientists say that there may have been many explosions to get the just right one for our universe today is the same as what scientists are claiming with a multiverse which is one of their far fetched theories to explain the fine tuning argument. Many mainstream scientists are in debate about how the universe started as well so I dont see any problem in Carson questioning the big bang theory.More on Carson's understanding of science:
Ben Carson: Big Bang A Fairy Tale, Theory Of Evolution Encouraged By The Devil | Buzzfeed
They are controversial for those who actually have some understanding of what the Big Bang entails. It's not an "explosion" in the conventional sense of the word.What Carson is saying is nothing out of the ordinary for what any person who believes in creation or God may say. In fact his views on the Big bang are not controversial.
I take it your understanding of the Big Bang is the same as Carson's?Many ask the same question how can order come from chaos. Especially when you consider the fine tuning of the universe for life and the cosmological constant which has to be so precise that it defies chance for the creation of the universe. His view on how scientists say that there may have been many explosions to get the just right one for our universe today is the same as what scientists are claiming with a multiverse which is one of their far fetched theories to explain the fine tuning argument. Many mainstream scientists are in debate about how the universe started as well so I dont see any problem in Carson questioning the big bang theory.
My understanding of the universe is like many in that we dont really know. There are a lot of ideas out there but none are really proven. There are conflicts even with the most popular theories and the maths doesn't add up to say that these theories are validated. IE there isn't enough mass in the universe to hold itself up so dark energy has been hypothesized. This hasn't been verified and is still a big unanswered question which is related to how the universe started.They are controversial for those who actually have some understanding of what the Big Bang entails. It's not an "explosion" in the conventional sense of the word.
I take it your understanding of the Big Bang is the same as Carson's?
There is a specific set for each living thing. Are you saying that any living creature can have any old combination of amino acids that sequence into a code to make their individual components.
Its the same for a set of machines or a bunch of cakes in a cake shop. They all have some similar ingredients but each has a specific set of ingredients that makes them turn out like they do. You couldn't just throw in a bunch of chemicals or baking ingredients into a pot and give it a mix then bake it hoping it would turn out correct. You have to measure each ingredient and combine them properly so that it gets the proper end result. This is similar to how each and every single life is made. None can be random mixtures of the individual nucleotides that make up our DNA.
In fact it is far more complicated then a cake mixture. There are multi levels of coded information that need to be just right and proteins are 3D shapes which need to be exactly right for them to function properly.
You keep saying that. I am not a biologist to know the detailed workings of this. But even though it differs wouldn't it still need to have the same specific makeup. JUst as there is variation within the same features of living things can there be variation within some proteins.
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