National Security Council releases 12 page summary of its review of the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

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That is a falsehood. Literally the opposite it was happened. Donald was convinced his electoral shenanigans were going to keep him in office and there was no reason to do a transition.
False. Joe and his administration have told false story after false story. They were not interested in adopting Trump's plans, EVERYONE should realize that they trashed so many of Trump's successful plans. The Biden people bad-mouthed Trump and his policies before and after Joe took office. This happened with with issue after issue, from our southern border to Afghanistan. Joe took the crazy, irresponsible actions on his own, haven't you noticed that he blames everything that goes bad on Trump and takes the credit for the little that is positive? Here's an August 2021 article addressing the facts on Afghanistan:

Team Biden showed no appreciation for ground-level intelligence reporting, which was largely rendered irrelevant. Just this week, Biden’s national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, claimed the security situation in Afghanistan “unfolded at unexpected speed.”
That is a shocking statement to hear from one of our nation’s most senior national-security officials. No one should have been the slightest bit surprised that when relieved of any conditions or obligations, the Taliban could and would overrun the whole country in the absence of US military power.
Tragically, because of the Biden administration’s single-minded focus on the pullout date, hard-nosed intelligence was replaced with wishful thinking and false promises.

 
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Here's an August 2021 article addressing the facts on Afghanistan:

OPINION

(Apart from that, the person who ran Trump's Afghanistan policy is hardly a disinterested party.)
 
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(Apart from that, the person who ran Trump's Afghanistan policy is hardly a disinterested party.)
The Biden people are hardly disinterested. They are trying to distract as the corruption of the Biden family surfaces. They distract, they hope that with the passage of time people will forget what happened. Joe was in charge, not Trump. Joe abandoned a strategic airfield, Joe moved out the MILITARY FIRST before evacuating the civilians, Joe's actions caused the death of many, and Joe and the let wing press have failed all of those left behind. Now they are trying to rewrite history.
 
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The Biden people are hardly disinterested. They are trying to distract as the corruption of the Biden family surfaces. They distract, they hope that with the passage of time people will forget what happened. Joe was in charge, not Trump. Joe abandoned a strategic airfield, Joe moved out the MILITARY FIRST before evacuating the civilians, Joe's actions caused the death of many, and Joe and the let wing press have failed all of those left behind. Now they are trying to rewrite history.
Ah, yes, the ol’ “The Bidens are the real crime family!” trope.
He really suckered me in by taking the train back home to Delaware for thirty years.
 
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That is a falsehood. Literally the opposite it was happened. Donald was convinced his electoral shenanigans were going to keep him in office and there was no reason to do a transition.
Perhaps someone is watching news instead of Fox News opinion shows.
 
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Ah, yes, the ol’ “The Bidens are the real crime family!” trope.
He really suckered me in by taking the train back home to Delaware for thirty years.
The Trumps have been under scrutiny by high paid Democrat lawyers since the first day he took office. Real estate is a complicated and tough business, all kinds of accounting carryovers, tens of thousands of transactions, and in all those years they have found nothing to convict any of the Trumps. They have to be the cleanest family in all of real estate. We know know that there have been roughly 250 suspicious financial transactions involving the Bidens flagged by the federal government. We have no explanation as to what the Bidens did to get millions of dollars from Chinese entities. We know Joe lied when he said he knew nothing of Hunter's business deals. Soon the banks will have to turn over the records to Congress. Joe is FULLY responsible for the actions he took in Afghanistan, NOT TRUMP. How much do those dead Americans mean to him? Remember him looking at his watch during the funeral services.
 
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The Trumps have been under scrutiny by high paid Democrat lawyers since the first day he took office. Real estate is a complicated and tough business, all kinds of accounting carryovers, tens of thousands of transactions, and in all those years they have found nothing to convict any of the Trumps. They have to be the cleanest family in all of real estate.
What we know is:
Donald Trump's father gave his children money, many millions of dollars when they were just children and didn't declare this and didn't pay tax.
This was illegal, but was only discovered well after the statute of limitations, so the crime goes uncharged.

a New York Times special investigation revealed that President Trump received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire over the course of his life — income that he shielded from inheritance taxes. The Times report concluded that Trump had participated in “dubious tax schemes . . . including instances of outright fraud.”

We also know the Trump's were done for racist practices,

The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.

D Trump's organisation has been found guilty for tax fraud crimes and his CFO went to prison.
  • The Trump Organization was fined $1.6 million for tax fraud and other crimes committed as part of a yearslong tax avoidance scheme.
  • The Trump Corp. and The Trump Payroll Corp. were found guilty last month on 17 counts in the first-ever criminal convictions of Trump’s companies.
  • Former Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg pleaded guilty to tax fraud charges last summer and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors against his longtime employer.
 
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The Trumps have been under scrutiny by high paid Democrat lawyers since the first day he took office. Real estate is a complicated and tough business, all kinds of accounting carryovers, tens of thousands of transactions, and in all those years they have found nothing to convict any of the Trumps. They have to be the cleanest family in all of real estate. We know know that there have been roughly 250 suspicious financial transactions involving the Bidens flagged by the federal government. We have no explanation as to what the Bidens did to get millions of dollars from Chinese entities. We know Joe lied when he said he knew nothing of Hunter's business deals. Soon the banks will have to turn over the records to Congress. Joe is FULLY responsible for the actions he took in Afghanistan, NOT TRUMP. How much do those dead Americans mean to him? Remember him looking at his watch during the funeral services.
I’m sure that when Trump walks on water or raises the dead, I’ll hear about that here first.
 
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. review led by the National Security Council of the chaotic 2021 withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan largely lays the blame on former President Donald Trump, saying President Joe Biden was “severely constrained” by the decisions of his predecessor.

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Wait...who was President before Trump? Who was Vice President? How long were they there?

How did Joe Biden and his team not see that being "severely constrained" by previous decisions would result in the disaster we all saw?

Or is it just another case of when things go wrong, blame Trump?

Yeah, I think you know the answer.
 
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Wait...who was President before Trump? Who was Vice President? How long were they there?

How did Joe Biden and his team not see that being "severely constrained" by previous decisions would result in the disaster we all saw?

Or is it just another case of when things go wrong, blame Trump?

Yeah, I think you know the answer.
President Trump negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan with the legitimate Afghani Government officials Taliban.
Biden was the poor schlub who had to abide by it and missed the deadline of Early May 2021.
 
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President Trump negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan with the legitimate Afghani Government officials Taliban.
Biden was the poor schlub who had to abide by it and missed the deadline of Early May 2021.
A president is in charge and is not required to meet with any deadlines set by a previous president.
 
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A president is in charge and is not required to meet with any deadlines set by a previous president.
How can other nations bring themselves to do a “deal” with the United States of America, if all the US need to do to get out of any such deal if the President can unilaterally change the parameters?
 
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How can other nations bring themselves to do a “deal” with the United States of America, if all the US need to do to get out of any such deal if the President can unilaterally change the parameters?
The agreed upon deadline for withdrawal was May 1, Joe Biden unilaterally changed the deadline. So Joe is lying by claiming he was bound by that agreement.
 
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Wait...who was President before Trump? Who was Vice President? How long were they there?
Ah, so the claim that this is just another example of Biden blaming Donald is supported by... Donald blaming Biden?
How did Joe Biden and his team not see that being "severely constrained" by previous decisions would result in the disaster we all saw?
You know it's right there in the report.

During the transition from the Trump Administration to the Biden Administration, the outgoing Administration provided no plans for how to conduct the final withdrawal or to evacuate Americans and Afghan allies. Indeed, there were no such plans in place when President Biden came into office, even with the agreed upon full withdrawal just over three months away.
Donald was convinced the Green Bay Sweep, fake electors, etc. would work to keep him in office so there was no need for a transition.
Fun fact - due to the the direct negotiations with the Taliban and exclusion of the Afghan government in addition to numerous troop draw downs, the takeover of the country by the Taliban was expected. The speed of the capitulation and collapse of the ANDSF was unexpected.

The Intelligence Community’s assessment in early 2021 was that Taliban advances would accelerate across large portions of Afghanistan after a complete U.S. military withdrawal and potentially lead to the Taliban’s capturing Kabul within a year or two.​
Or is it just another case of when things go wrong, blame Trump?

Yeah, I think you know the answer.
Instead of just thinking you know the answer, you could always read the report.

President Trump ordered direct talks with the Taliban without consulting with our allies and partners or allowing the Afghan government at the negotiating table. In September 2019, President Trump embolded the Taliban by publicly considering inviting them to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11. In February 2020, the United States and the Taliban reached a deal, known as the Doha Agreement, under which the United States agreed to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan by May 2021. In return, the Taliban agreed to participate in a peace process and refrain from attacking U.S. troops and threatening Afghanistan’s major cities—but only as long as the United States remained committed to withdraw by the agreement’s deadline. As part of the deal, President Trump also pressured the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban fighters from prison, including senior war commanders, without securing the release of the only American hostage known to be held by the Taliban.​
 
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The agreed upon deadline for withdrawal was May 1, Joe Biden unilaterally changed the deadline. So Joe is lying by claiming he was bound by that agreement.

What was Biden to do?
He sued for “more time” and it wasn’t until August that the debacle happened.
The way the Trump White House worked they would not have met the wildly optimistic deadline either.
Things were put on the back burner until his second-term because he was sure that he was going to win that he could let stuff “slide” until that happy eventuality arrived and he’d really get to work, having someone draw up these plans to get our people out in a timely fashion while he golfed.
 
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What was Biden to do?
He sued for “more time” and it wasn’t until August that the debacle happened.
The way the Trump White House worked they would not have met the wildly optimistic deadline either.
Things were put on the back burner until his second-term because he was sure that he was going to win that he could let stuff “slide” until that happy eventuality arrived and he’d really get to work, having someone draw up these plans to get our people out in a timely fashion while he golfed.
. . . there are many things “Trump did that the Biden administration wasted no time undoing.” And the Biden administration could have undone the Afghanistan policies of the Trump administration that the Biden administration is attempting to blame.
 
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. . . there are many things “Trump did that the Biden administration wasted no time undoing.” And the Biden administration could have undone the Afghanistan policies of the Trump administration that the Biden administration is attempting to blame.
Rather than propaganda from Breitbart, how about we just listen to the Chuck Todd asks Rep. Moulton and his reply? It's a lot more nuanced than that Breitbart propaganda is suggesting.
 
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