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(NARTH) says homosexuals can change

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A new report from the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), a group of psychologists, psychotherapists and other health care professionals, is directly challenging the central claims of the pro-gay political movement.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The entire homosexual rights movement has been built upon the politically correct idea that homosexuality is unchangeable. In addition, homosexual activists say that efforts to change unwanted same-sex attraction are damaging. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]However, after reviewing more than 100 years of literature, NARTH has found that the research clearly indicates homosexuals can overcome unwanted same-sex attraction, and it is not generally harmful to do so. This new research confirms what the thousands of men and women who have left homosexuality already know: Change is possible.[/FONT]
 

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A new report from the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), a group of psychologists, psychotherapists and other health care professionals, is directly challenging the central claims of the pro-gay political movement.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The entire homosexual rights movement has been built upon the politically correct idea that homosexuality is unchangeable. In addition, homosexual activists say that efforts to change unwanted same-sex attraction are damaging. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]However, after reviewing more than 100 years of literature, NARTH has found that the research clearly indicates homosexuals can overcome unwanted same-sex attraction, and it is not generally harmful to do so. This new research confirms what the thousands of men and women who have left homosexuality already know: Change is possible.[/FONT]

Please watch special online video, in which one Melissa, shares how she overcame homosexuality.
 
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Honestly, I have no problem with people who have unwanted same-sex attractions seeking help.

I do, however, have a problem with anyone who says that ALL of us can, or should, seek 'reparative therapy' when we're perfectly happy with our orientation.

I also think that since sexual orientation is a continuum, there are many more people who fit somewhere in the middle between straight and gay than there are people who are 100% one or the other.
If you were somewhere in the middle, it would be a lot easier to change, now, wouldn't it?

As someone who has NEVER experienced any kind of real romantic attraction to the opposite sex, and who is content in her life and love, I would never seek 'reparative therapy', and would probably be psychologically damaged if I were forced into it.
 
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Probably heterosexuals could change, if forced to.

Why should we change?

Didn't I read somewhere that homosexuals had more disposable income?

A national campaign to "turn" poor heterosexuals into homosexuals might help the economy...
 
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A new report from the National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH), a group of psychologists, psychotherapists and other health care professionals, is directly challenging the central claims of the pro-gay political movement.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The entire homosexual rights movement has been built upon the politically correct idea that homosexuality is unchangeable. In addition, homosexual activists say that efforts to change unwanted same-sex attraction are damaging. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]However, after reviewing more than 100 years of literature, NARTH has found that the research clearly indicates homosexuals can overcome unwanted same-sex attraction, and it is not generally harmful to do so. This new research confirms what the thousands of men and women who have left homosexuality already know: Change is possible.[/FONT]

So do you have a link to this research?
 
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So, I expect that NARTH has submitted this study for peer-review to ensure that their methodology and research is unbiased and repeatable?

It would seem so... Over 100 years worth. Have those trying to say that homosexuals just have to live the way they are without any hope of change submitted unbiased, repeatable research ---- or are they above such things because they know better?

How may years are they basing their conclusions on, and are they really trying to invoke change or just content to leave those so afflicted as they are?
 
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It would seem so... Over 100 years worth. Have those trying to say that homosexuals just have to live the way they are without any hope of change submitted unbiased, repeatable research ---- or are they above such things because they know better?

How may years are they basing their conclusions on, and are they really trying to invoke change or just content to leave those so afflicted as they are?


Or it could just be that they do not view them as "afflicted". That they do not think there is something wrong with them that needs to be cured.
 
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It would seem so... Over 100 years worth. Have those trying to say that homosexuals just have to live the way they are without any hope of change submitted unbiased, repeatable research ---- or are they above such things because they know better?

How may years are they basing their conclusions on, and are they really trying to invoke change or just content to leave those so afflicted as they are?

I'll take that as a "no, they're not letting other professionals in the field review their findings and give criticism of the methodology."
 
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And...?

Honestly, I have no problem with people who have unwanted same-sex attractions seeking help.

I do, however, have a problem with anyone who says that ALL of us can, or should, seek 'reparative therapy' when we're perfectly happy with our orientation.

I also think that since sexual orientation is a continuum, there are many more people who fit somewhere in the middle between straight and gay than there are people who are 100% one or the other.
If you were somewhere in the middle, it would be a lot easier to change, now, wouldn't it?

As someone who has NEVER experienced any kind of real romantic attraction to the opposite sex, and who is content in her life and love, I would never seek 'reparative therapy', and would probably be psychologically damaged if I were forced into it.

Well, unless the leapard really wishes to change his spots, such attempts would seem futile. The very same is true of drunks and smokers... Yet I've heard no one suggest that we should give up trying to encourage them to stop.

I think you are still far too young to imagine that your only choice is to be with a woman or be with a man. GOD may have meant for you to remain celebate.
 
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I'll take that as a "no, they're not letting other professionals in the field review their findings and give criticism of the methodology."


Only if you consider "other professionals in the field" the same thing as "others who have a vested interest in reaching the same conclusion as me".
 
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Ah, more people who REALLY REALLY CARE about what complete strangers do in the privacy of their own beds.


No, I do care what "complete strangers" promote in classrooms, on the TV, Internet, and over the radio waves. It seldom stops at the bedroom door.
 
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I'll take that as a "no, they're not letting other professionals in the field review their findings and give criticism of the methodology."

Why don't you do an investagation? What do you have to loose sxcept maybe some excuses?
 
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It would seem so... Over 100 years worth. Have those trying to say that homosexuals just have to live the way they are without any hope of change submitted unbiased, repeatable research ---- or are they above such things because they know better?

How may years are they basing their conclusions on, and are they really trying to invoke change or just content to leave those so afflicted as they are?

Do you really not get it? We are not "afflicted".
 
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