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Name one doctrine that is not supported by Scripture.

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(For the anti-Sola Scriptura crowd).

Name one doctrine that was held by the Chalcedon affirming Church that is not supported in Scripture.

I contend that one doesn't exist.

The Church that affirms Chalcedon or the Church up to the point of Chalcedon? I am confused there.

Also I don't think one would exist either or they would say one existed usually, considering how they defended all of their views with Scripture although as St. Vincent says "joined to the Ecclesiastical Tradition." I think the fullness of Revelation is in both so I would say even (if you mean the Church that affirms Chalcedon) all I believe is supported in it.
 
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(For the anti-Sola Scriptura crowd).

Name one doctrine that was held by the Chalcedon affirming Church that is not supported in Scripture.

I contend that one doesn't exist.
of course one does not exist. The books of the Bible were canonized precisely becasue they did not depart from Apostalic teaching.
 
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(For the anti-Sola Scriptura crowd).

Name one doctrine that was held by the Chalcedon affirming Church that is not supported in Scripture.

I contend that one doesn't exist.
As a lead into Chaceldon amd the earlier council in Ephasus, I have a question.

Many people on this forum refuse to call Mary "The Mother of God". What say you? Is Mary the "Mother of God"?
 
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As a lead into Chaceldon amd the earlier council in Ephasus, I have a question.

Many people on this forum refuse to call Mary "The Mother of God". What say you? Is Mary the "Mother of God"?
Mary is the Mother of God. She was chosen to deliver Him in the flesh.
 
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As a lead into Chaceldon amd the earlier council in Ephasus, I have a question.

Many people on this forum refuse to call Mary "The Mother of God". What say you? Is Mary the "Mother of God"?

This is interesting, because it gets to the heart of why the Councils are so important.

I have noticed that many evangelicals refuse to or feel uncomfortable calling Jesus “God”. They will describe Him as “the Divine Son of God”, or as “the Son of God”, but less frequently “the Second Person of the Trinity” and even less frequently “God”.

Some explain they don’t feel comfortable calling Christ God, as Scripture describes Christ most frequently as the Son of God. Going further than this might be blasphemy, or over-kill. They are scared to say anything that is not Biblical, and so, unfortunately, they inadvertently turn into semi-Arians.

Many don’t see anything wrong with this.
 
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As a lead into Chaceldon amd the earlier council in Ephasus, I have a question.

Many people on this forum refuse to call Mary "The Mother of God". What say you? Is Mary the "Mother of God"?
Here's the problem with calling Mary the Mother of God.
When we refer to God, we usually mean God Father, or Yahweh.
God, Yahweh, did not have a mother - God always existed and there was no being before Him.

If we mean Jesus, the Word Incarnate, and we know that He is God,,,then it would seem to be correct.
Except we really don't mean Jesus, do we?

I like to say that Mary is the Mother of Jesus,,,Mother of The Word - or the 2nd person of the Trinity.

Comment?
 
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The Church which affirms. I don't want to get into the Christological nuances (e.g. the Copts)
 
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of course one does not exist. The books of the Bible were canonized precisely becasue they did not depart from Apostalic teaching.
You seem to affirm the Lutheran definition of Sola Scriptura here.
 
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We affirm that Mary is the Mother of God.
As a lead into Chaceldon amd the earlier council in Ephasus, I have a question.

Many people on this forum refuse to call Mary "The Mother of God". What say you? Is Mary the "Mother of God"?
 
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Yes. We mean Jesus. Jesus is a Divine person with two natures, human and Divine. Therefore, God was born, walked, ate, wept, suffered and died.
 
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They're heretics if they are uncomfortable affirming the full Diety of the Son. They are not Christians in the proper sense of the word.
 
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LCMS Lutheran here

As an Evangelical, I know Christ is God, the second person in the Trinity. However, he is also the son of God, and you are correct we prefer to refer to him as such.

I don't really think evangelicals feel it's heretical to discuss, or proclaim Christ as God, we do recite the Athanasian Creed, and it's taught in our confessional writings. I would guess it's just habit to use the Son of God.

As far as Mary is concerned, she doesn't get a lot of attention, usually just Jesus mother, or the Virgin Mary.
 
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Hey, Silverback. When I say “evangelical”, I am referring to non-denom, Baptist, Pentecostal, and other Christians.
 
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We just celebrated her feast day in August. Her name is present in 4O% of our hymns and we confess Christ specifically as God throughout the liturgy.
 
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The Church which affirms.

Some would say that the doctrine that Public Revelation closed [for this age] with the last Apostle St. John is a doctrine not in Scripture, I personally think that it is implied in the last verses of Revelation though (anything explicit, implied, or in Church able to accurately read as = in Scripture to me).
 
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