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Hi there,
I got some flack on another thread so I wanted to raise the issue here.
Reading John 17, it begins with the statement in verse 2 that Jesus was given Authority (Exousia) from the Father.
Then in 17:11 "Protect them by the power of Your Name the Name You gave me" (Onomati)
an verse 12 "I protected them and kept them safe by that Name you gave me.(Onomati)
So we know that the Father gave Jesus His Name - the Name of Jesus. (Jn 17:11) That was the Father's name.
This is the Name that is above every Name (Eph 1:21) (Phil 2:9)
Now traditionally there has been reluctance to believe that the Name Jesus is in fact also the Name of the Father.
Folks insist that the Name was not given, only the authority and power.
But as I read it, the greek text does not support this.
If John meant authority and not the actual passing on of a Name, he would in these cases have also used Exousia.
Further if Jesus indeed was given the Name above every Name, then the Father does not have some greater Name, rather they share the same Name.
If I am correct then endless discussions over the Name of God the Father become insignificant and the YHWH debates pale into insignificance.
OK I have rudimentary Greek and need more qualified scholars to agree or correct me please.
As I read it then, the Father and the Son share both the same authority and the same name.
I got some flack on another thread so I wanted to raise the issue here.
Reading John 17, it begins with the statement in verse 2 that Jesus was given Authority (Exousia) from the Father.
Then in 17:11 "Protect them by the power of Your Name the Name You gave me" (Onomati)
an verse 12 "I protected them and kept them safe by that Name you gave me.(Onomati)
So we know that the Father gave Jesus His Name - the Name of Jesus. (Jn 17:11) That was the Father's name.
This is the Name that is above every Name (Eph 1:21) (Phil 2:9)
Now traditionally there has been reluctance to believe that the Name Jesus is in fact also the Name of the Father.
Folks insist that the Name was not given, only the authority and power.
But as I read it, the greek text does not support this.
If John meant authority and not the actual passing on of a Name, he would in these cases have also used Exousia.
Further if Jesus indeed was given the Name above every Name, then the Father does not have some greater Name, rather they share the same Name.
If I am correct then endless discussions over the Name of God the Father become insignificant and the YHWH debates pale into insignificance.
OK I have rudimentary Greek and need more qualified scholars to agree or correct me please.
As I read it then, the Father and the Son share both the same authority and the same name.