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foolsparade

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Ah yes, 'exodus' questioning the morality of atheists through association. He has yet to provide any refference to the initial claim of this thread. He speaks of morality yet the base of his thread is on deceit and unfounded irrelevent alogations. Still I wonder what is the fascination of sex with Christian fundys? I suspect repression, which might also explain the connection between preists and pedeophelia. Exodus' has yet to provide proof that the AA wants to drop the legal age of consent to 14! Perhaps you should take that up with your God, why would he make females biologicaly able to be inpregnated and give birth at 13 or even sometimes younger?? :confused:

The Christian God after all invented hell! You want to talk about morality? How silly this God must be. Since I do not believe in a cosmic code book for morality, I have created a responsiblity for my own actions in THIS lifetime. ;)

"The God of Scripture slaughtered entire groups of people that offended his vanity, ordering young virgins to be kept alive as war booty for his priests (Numbers 31). "Happy shall be he that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones," he advised (Psalm 137:9), threatening those with the wrong religion that "their women with child shall be ripped up" (Hosea 13:16), sending bears to attack 42 children who teased a prophet (II Kings 2:23-24), punishing innocent offspring to the fourth generation (Exodus 20:5), discriminating against the handicapped (Leviticus 21:18-23), promising that fathers and sons would eat each other (Ezekiel 5:10), and much more that we would find repugnant in a human being. In this theistic universe, morality is severed from reality and reduced to flattering the Sovereign."... Dan Barker

"The threat of dammation is designed to be an incentive to right action; but this is a phony morality. Humanists think we should do good for goodness' sake, not for the selfish prospect of reaping individual rewards or avoiding punishment. Any ideology that makes its point by threatening violence is morally bankrupt."...Dan Barker
 
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Originally posted by Rae
Uh....Soul? If a Catholic says something stupid, followed by something you said, can I assume you agree with her/him?

No?

Then don't assume all atheists agree with what all other atheists say. Really. Do you agree with everything Andrew Greeley says? I disagree with things many prominent Pagans say, specifically Edain McCoy and Silver RavenWolf. You are unfairly judging above, in a way I presume you wouldn't like if applied to you.
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Huh?  My post showed how moronic the one I quoted was, it said nothing about your views or any other atheist, did it?  Why did that threaten you?
 
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Originally posted by HazyRigby
Why is pornography immoral, Humanista? :scratch: Or "fornication" or drug use, for that matter?

And by the way, don't we all love folks who lump "atheists" into the same category? It's obvious to me that Humanista and I could not be more different in what we view as "immoral." Yet we share a similar world-view. Isn't is funny how--I don't know--DIVERSE atheists are?

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HazyRigby, I think things which are destructive and which impede the general peace or harmony of society are immoral. Pornography is one of those gray areas---my pornography may be your art and vice versa. I object to pornography involving children and abuse, and I am uncomfortable with deliberately feeding unhealthy desires in people. Some will view pornography and it is harmless. Others will be encouraged to act out their fantasies. Whether they would have done so without consuming pornography varies from case to case.  Fornication and drug use have similar gray areas. Of course I do not have a problem with people using drugs for illnesses. I think, in general, illegal drug use leads to misery and destruction. Of course there are exceptions. We all make our choices. I am just telling you what my own personal boundaries are.

I didn't want to hijack the thread into one on specific immoral acts, so I have declined to go into a great deal of detail. I think you get the idea. And YES, you are absolutely right, just because we are both atheists doesn't mean we share identical views on every moral issue.
 
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Humanista: I would hope that most people would object to pornography involving children and "abuse" whatever that means. How do you reason that sexuality and erotica are unhealthy desires?? Sure some consequences are unhealthy, but that also goes towards alot that we do such as mountain climbing! Legal drug use also can lead to misery such as alcoholism. I don't think you need to worry about hijaking the thread, it was doomed from the start. :D
 
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