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I didn't read about PI, in the Bible either, but yet, some skeptic saw PI in the Bible, even though, as you said "the Bible does not describe Pi at all."Because it's not Pi, and thus the Bible does not describe Pi at all.
Yes Im embarrassed to say I actually wanted to find out precisely where your error originated.Please tell me you did not go back to the OP to find something to pick at. That is where the calculation went wrong. Would you like me to delete that, so that you do not have anything in the OP to look for to attack, and you can deal with what is being said currently?
I didn't read about PI, in the Bible either, but yet, some skeptic saw PI in the Bible, even though, as you said "the Bible does not describe Pi at all."
So, can I say the objection that the Bible says PI is 3, is a myth?
Would you back me on that?
It might be better to restate your argument entirely, because the "skeptics" only have a point if you insist that the diameter of the vessel must be 10 cubits exactly and the circumference must be 30 cubits exactly.Please tell me you did not go back to the OP to find something to pick at. That is where the calculation went wrong. Would you like me to delete that, so that you do not have anything in the OP to look for to attack, and you can deal with what is being said currently?
Part of the point is WRT the "perfection" of the Bible. If instead ofIt might be better to restate your argument entirely, because the "skeptics" only have a point if you insist that the diameter of the vessel must be 10 cubits exactly and the circumference must be 30 cubits exactly.
What can it be rounded down to?Who says it can't be rounded down?
Okay, let's deal with the scripture then.It might be better to restate your argument entirely, because the "skeptics" only have a point if you insist that the diameter of the vessel must be 10 cubits exactly and the circumference must be 30 cubits exactly.
Okay, sorry.Yes Im embarrassed to say I actually wanted to find out precisely where your error originated.
Thank you.Anyway, I do agree with you that the Bible doesn't give pi as 3. This is because the verse is not meant to be a presentation of pi. Its a guy describing a model in rough figures.
Okay, let's deal with the scripture then.
What is the precise value of a cubic, and why is the diameter of the vessel must being10 cubits exactly and the circumference being 30 cubits exactly, a problem for skeptics?
...but you said "the Bible does not describe Pi at all."No, the Bible does say that Pi is 3. That's not a myth, it's a fact.
Where exactly is the fallacy... or did you just create one, so that you can say this?But, since as you say in the OP that the Ancient Jews were not mathematicians and that the Bible is not a maths textbook, such a fallible thing can be seen as human error, no?
Right. making up stuff to attack, so as to have an excuse to attack the Bible. I am right, aren't I?I don't think you get what the problem about that verse is. It's not a problem for skeptics. It's a problem skeptics use when talking about how the Bible is clearly not 100% literally divinely inspired, as is often claimed by the Christians who do say it is 100% literally divinely inspired.
To any degree you find useful, The rules for rounding numbers are well understood and frequently applied for practical reasons. For example, with home shop projects of the kind I undertake I find 3.14 to be entirely satisfactory.What can it be rounded down to?
...but you said "the Bible does not describe Pi at all."
What do you mean "the Bible does say that Pi is 3"? You aren't playing games are you?
Where exactly is the fallacy... or did you just create one, so that you can say this?
An attack on the Bible is not contemplated. What it is, is skepticism of a particular hermeneutic.Right. making up stuff to attack, so as to have an excuse to attack the Bible. I am right, aren't I?
It's not a problem for skeptics, it's a problem for biblical literalists, because if the vessel is perfectly circular then one or both of those measurements must be imprecise.Okay, let's deal with the scripture then.
What is the precise value of a cubic, and why is the diameter of the vessel must being10 cubits exactly and the circumference being 30 cubits exactly, a problem for skeptics?
Right. making up stuff to attack, so as to have an excuse to attack the Bible. I am right, aren't I?
Not everyone thinks so.To any degree you find useful, The rules for rounding numbers are well understood and frequently applied for practical reasons. For example, with home shop projects of the kind I undertake I find 3.14 to be entirely satisfactory.
Who sought to find the radius?Ho boy...
Okay. So let's break this down simply.
In the passage given, the Bible describes a vessel. 30 cubits in circumference, and then 10 cubits across.
Following the basic math for finding the radius, 30/10 - 3. That does not equal Pi since it is 3.14.
You seem to be saying that 30/10, or a ratio of one to three is a human error.This is what is called a 'human error'; an error made by humans. It happens when something is created by man. Ergo, the Bible was created by humans and not God. Do you understand what I'm saying here?
It depends on what you mean by "get it right." You won't be able to hold both of those dimensions exactly. If it is perfectly circular and to be exactly 10 cubits across then the circumference will be about 31.4... cubits. on the other hand, if you want it to have a circumference of exactly 30 cubits then the diameter will be about 9.549... cubits.Not everyone thinks so.
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However, if I am just interested in the measurement of my bathtub being 30 cubits around, and 10 cubits wide, will I be able to get it right, if I am not interested in mathematical calculations?
I think so. What do you think?
Who sought to find the radius?
Would that be those reading the text today, like yourself?
Why should that matter to those reading it prior?
You seem to be saying that 30/10, or a ratio of one to three is a human error.
Am I understanding you correctly?
May I ask who decided that, and why?
It is implicit in finding the diameter.Who sought to find the radius?
For anyone reading the text who assumed that the measurements given were exact.Would that be those reading the text today, like yourself?
It doesn't even matter to those who are reading it now, except for those who assume that the measurements given must be exact.Why should that matter to those reading it prior?
Or a matter of indifference to an author whose literary purpose was merely to emphasize the grandness of the vessel, without interrupting the flow of his description with fractional values.You seem to be saying that 30/10, or a ratio of one to three is a human error.
Unknown. The value of pi was known to the ancient Sumerians, well before the writing of Kings. Who first discovered it is lost to historyAm I understanding you correctly?
May I ask who decided that, and why?
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