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So my wife's been working for Walmart for almost 13 months now and she just recently got promoted and is now making even more than she was before which means that she's getting more hours than she's had before. It was very difficult with her old job for us to attend Church not only because it was an hours drive away but also because she virtually never got a Sunday off even when she applied for one. When she first applied for the job she mentioned that she didn't mind working weekends but that she wanted some Sundays off so that she could attend Church and they said no problem. She was working part time then and in the first year that she worked there she got maybe 4 Sundays off many of them she had to request off.

She started her new full time job Monday and I've barely seen her. She doesn't get another day off until next Monday and Wednesday and she's regularly working 6 sometimes 7 days a week for the foreseeable future. I'm concerned that she will never get another Sunday off again and I want to attend Church to see my church Elder and my church family.

My Elder I can see virtually anytime because often he and his wife will take my wife and I out to dinner. In fact we have plans to eat out sometime in September. But spending time with my Elder who is like my best friend is only part of the reason I like attending church. I also like listening to him preach he gives fantastic sermons every Sunday, I go for communion, I go to spend time with our congregation, I love the hour long car ride there and the hour long car ride back, I go so that my Elder can help me grow as a Christian and help my wife and I shape and mold. Things that just can't be done by regularly contacting him through email.

I don't know what can be done though. I don't want to change churches because for one, our church is the closest PCA church to us and for two, im so close to our Elder and congregation that I don't want to leave even if there was a closer church. I mean, he would always talk to me and probably would always remain friends with me but I like him being the leader of my presbytery he does a fantastic job at it and I really hope he never retires.

And I don't want my wife to quit her job because she makes enough for me to get off of ssi so I'm not bound to the government anymore and I can actually save money and no longer can the government say "sorry you have too much money. You need to spend it all". No longer do I have to deal with my parents trying to encourage me to commit capital fraud and hide money from the government because my grandmother does it and everyone else does it and gets away with it and they're not going to prosecute me for it. No longer do I have to try to explain to them that I'm not worried about the government I'm worried about and obeying God who sees all. No longer do I have to deal with them not getting it and their constant harassment.

So really the only option is for my wife to get fired and be forced to find a new job because my wife really loves her job and loves working there and Walmart appreciates her enough to promote her so they like her too. So unless she does something grossly wrong I don't think that's going to happen. So... I guess I'm just stuck? How do I deal with this?
 

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So my wife's been working for Walmart for almost 13 months now and she just recently got promoted and is now making even more than she was before which means that she's getting more hours than she's had before. It was very difficult with her old job for us to attend Church not only because it was an hours drive away but also because she virtually never got a Sunday off even when she applied for one. When she first applied for the job she mentioned that she didn't mind working weekends but that she wanted some Sundays off so that she could attend Church and they said no problem. She was working part time then and in the first year that she worked there she got maybe 4 Sundays off many of them she had to request off.

She started her new full time job Monday and I've barely seen her. She doesn't get another day off until next Monday and Wednesday and she's regularly working 6 sometimes 7 days a week for the foreseeable future. I'm concerned that she will never get another Sunday off again and I want to attend Church to see my church Elder and my church family.

My Elder I can see virtually anytime because often he and his wife will take my wife and I out to dinner. In fact we have plans to eat out sometime in September. But spending time with my Elder who is like my best friend is only part of the reason I like attending church. I also like listening to him preach he gives fantastic sermons every Sunday, I go for communion, I go to spend time with our congregation, I love the hour long car ride there and the hour long car ride back, I go so that my Elder can help me grow as a Christian and help my wife and I shape and mold. Things that just can't be done by regularly contacting him through email.

I don't know what can be done though. I don't want to change churches because for one, our church is the closest PCA church to us and for two, im so close to our Elder and congregation that I don't want to leave even if there was a closer church. I mean, he would always talk to me and probably would always remain friends with me but I like him being the leader of my presbytery he does a fantastic job at it and I really hope he never retires.

And I don't want my wife to quit her job because she makes enough for me to get off of ssi so I'm not bound to the government anymore and I can actually save money and no longer can the government say "sorry you have too much money. You need to spend it all". No longer do I have to deal with my parents trying to encourage me to commit capital fraud and hide money from the government because my grandmother does it and everyone else does it and gets away with it and they're not going to prosecute me for it. No longer do I have to try to explain to them that I'm not worried about the government I'm worried about and obeying God who sees all. No longer do I have to deal with them not getting it and their constant harassment.

So really the only option is for my wife to get fired and be forced to find a new job because my wife really loves her job and loves working there and Walmart appreciates her enough to promote her so they like her too. So unless she does something grossly wrong I don't think that's going to happen. So... I guess I'm just stuck? How do I deal with this?
This is a hard question to answer. If it is okay with you, can I plug this into an AI (one that is run locally, and is connected to theological documents)? Also, as AI is not infallible, I recommend discussing this with several pastors or priests. First off, I will pray that everything works out for you, your wife, and your churchgoing.
 
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Congratulations to your wife on her promotion! That's wonderful!

Here are some thoughts:

1. Is there any other way you can get transportation to church? I assume you don't drive, for health reasons, and that there's no public transportation in your area (otherwise, those are options). Are there any family members or friends who could drive you?

2. For those Sundays when you can't get to your home church, would you consider visiting another church that's near you? You're PCA, so... a different Presbyterian church, or a Congregational church, or a Baptist church might give you a similar experience. If they say something you disagree with, just shrug it off. They'd read the Bible, have a sermon, maybe even have an adult Bible study, and (in most churches) offer you Communion. This isn't changing churches; it's just visiting. I've visited lots of churches that weren't my home congregation.

3. Does your home church offer services or Bible studies on days of the week other than Sundays? If they have, say, Wednesday night Bible study or Saturday evening worship, that could be a way to stay connected with them.

It's tough living so far from your home church, especially in an area without buses and subways. I feel for you. Eventually, your wife may get promoted so far up the ladder that she'll have some say in which hours she works.
 
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This is a hard question to answer. If it is okay with you, can I plug this into an AI (one that is run locally, and is connected to theological documents)? Also, as AI is not infallible, I recommend discussing this with several pastors or priests. First off, I will pray that everything works out for you, your wife, and your churchgoing.

Yes, you can plug it into an ai if you want sure. Larry is on vacation all of August (my Elder) so I haven't been able to Email him much or I would have been talking to him about this too.

I told him about the promotion though and he was ecstatic for her. So it's not a complete loss. I think he understands that work gets in the way but at the same time, church attendance is very important. It makes me wish I had a license and a car. I'd go down and drive myself but I don't drive nor do we have a second vehicle. So that idea wouldn't work.
 
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Congratulations to your wife on her promotion! That's wonderful!

Here are some thoughts:

1. Is there any other way you can get transportation to church? I assume you don't drive, for health reasons, and that there's no public transportation in your area (otherwise, those are options). Are there any family members or friends who could drive you?

2. For those Sundays when you can't get to your home church, would you consider visiting another church that's near you? You're PCA, so... a different Presbyterian church, or a Congregational church, or a Baptist church might give you a similar experience. If they say something you disagree with, just shrug it off. They'd read the Bible, have a sermon, maybe even have an adult Bible study, and (in most churches) offer you Communion. This isn't changing churches; it's just visiting. I've visited lots of churches that weren't my home congregation.

3. Does your home church offer services or Bible studies on days of the week other than Sundays? If they have, say, Wednesday night Bible study or Saturday evening worship, that could be a way to stay connected with them.

It's tough living so far from your home church, especially in an area without buses and subways. I feel for you. Eventually, your wife may get promoted so far up the ladder that she'll have some say in which hours she works.

Thanks! I will tell Jen you said so!

Yeah I never got my driver's license. I got my permit when I turned 16 and took driver's education but never got my drivers license. Nor do we have a second car anyway even if I did get my license. Although my mom never goes to church anymore because she only goes for her mom and my grandmother is almost in her mid 90s now and is too old to attend Church anymore so my mom doesnt go. I'd ask her to take me if the church wasn't all the way in Canton and if she would have something to do for the hour and a half church is going on. Larry wouldn't mind her attending but she isn't a Protestant she's a Catholic and she wouldn't like his preaching.

I think there's mostly only Catholic Churches here in town. There was a Catholic church that my grandmother and mom used to attend in Moira about 15 minutes from here but they were a pretty heretical church. The priest there taught some pretty bad and weird stuff let's just leave it at that. Even a Catholic would have found his teachings heresy. They've since gotten a new priest and I don't know how liberal or conservative the new priest is but, I don't know if I want to attend a Catholic church. I know my mother would be glad to drive me to a Catholic church though. But maybe I can do a search for some Protestant churches within 20 minutes of here that my mom wouldn't mind driving to and back. Idk. I'll have to look and ask her.


Larry tried setting up Bible studies but nobody came so he hasn't done any Bible studies in years. Our congregation is very small so to even get us attending every Sunday is a challenge for him. They have a woman's group for women only that Jen has been wanting to attend if the church was closer to us.


I don't know. Maybe someday we will consider moving to Potsdam. Potsdam has a Walmart and a much bigger Walmart so Jen could easily transfer there and we would be less than 10 minutes away from church. We would still have the Sunday problem but I could carpool to church because I know Larry would pick me up every Sunday on his way to work. It would be out of his way but it would be extremely close so I know he would do it.

It costs a lot to live in Potsdam but it could be a maybe idea.
 
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Yes, you can plug it into an ai if you want sure. Larry is on vacation all of August (my Elder) so I haven't been able to Email him much or I would have been talking to him about this too.

I told him about the promotion though and he was ecstatic for her. So it's not a complete loss. I think he understands that work gets in the way but at the same time, church attendance is very important. It makes me wish I had a license and a car. I'd go down and drive myself but I don't drive nor do we have a second vehicle. So that idea wouldn't work.
Hopefully, everything works out.
 
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So my wife's been working for Walmart for almost 13 months now and she just recently got promoted and is now making even more than she was before which means that she's getting more hours than she's had before. It was very difficult with her old job for us to attend Church not only because it was an hours drive away but also because she virtually never got a Sunday off even when she applied for one. When she first applied for the job she mentioned that she didn't mind working weekends but that she wanted some Sundays off so that she could attend Church and they said no problem. She was working part time then and in the first year that she worked there she got maybe 4 Sundays off many of them she had to request off.

She started her new full time job Monday and I've barely seen her. She doesn't get another day off until next Monday and Wednesday and she's regularly working 6 sometimes 7 days a week for the foreseeable future. I'm concerned that she will never get another Sunday off again and I want to attend Church to see my church Elder and my church family.

My Elder I can see virtually anytime because often he and his wife will take my wife and I out to dinner. In fact we have plans to eat out sometime in September. But spending time with my Elder who is like my best friend is only part of the reason I like attending church. I also like listening to him preach he gives fantastic sermons every Sunday, I go for communion, I go to spend time with our congregation, I love the hour long car ride there and the hour long car ride back, I go so that my Elder can help me grow as a Christian and help my wife and I shape and mold. Things that just can't be done by regularly contacting him through email.

I don't know what can be done though. I don't want to change churches because for one, our church is the closest PCA church to us and for two, im so close to our Elder and congregation that I don't want to leave even if there was a closer church. I mean, he would always talk to me and probably would always remain friends with me but I like him being the leader of my presbytery he does a fantastic job at it and I really hope he never retires.

And I don't want my wife to quit her job because she makes enough for me to get off of ssi so I'm not bound to the government anymore and I can actually save money and no longer can the government say "sorry you have too much money. You need to spend it all". No longer do I have to deal with my parents trying to encourage me to commit capital fraud and hide money from the government because my grandmother does it and everyone else does it and gets away with it and they're not going to prosecute me for it. No longer do I have to try to explain to them that I'm not worried about the government I'm worried about and obeying God who sees all. No longer do I have to deal with them not getting it and their constant harassment.

So really the only option is for my wife to get fired and be forced to find a new job because my wife really loves her job and loves working there and Walmart appreciates her enough to promote her so they like her too. So unless she does something grossly wrong I don't think that's going to happen. So... I guess I'm just stuck? How do I deal with this?
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Here is the advice from the AI, @Neostarwcc .

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Here is the advice from the AI, @Neostarwcc .

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Thank you. I have been keeping regular communication with Larry through email and since it's such a small congregation he doesn't really have the capacity to make services on other days but at least I'm getting his weekly services in the mail. It's not quite the same as attending but I'm at least not missing his sermons every week.

Idk, I just really miss spending time with the congregation and regularly getting communion. Jen could always get a new job with less pay but i just don't think that's really an option. Maybe it really should be an eventual goal to move to Potsdam and have Jen transfer to the Walmart there. We would be so much closer to church and would be able to attend every week. But we also would need to get an apartment and sell our trailer that my parents set up for us. Don't know if that would be the best idea or how my parents would feel about that. But, it's something to think about.
 
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Thank you. I have been keeping regular communication with Larry through email and since it's such a small congregation he doesn't really have the capacity to make services on other days but at least I'm getting his weekly services in the mail. It's not quite the same as attending but I'm at least not missing his sermons every week.

Idk, I just really miss spending time with the congregation and regularly getting communion. Jen could always get a new job with less pay but i just don't think that's really an option. Maybe it really should be an eventual goal to move to Potsdam and have Jen transfer to the Walmart there. We would be so much closer to church and would be able to attend every week. But we also would need to get an apartment and sell our trailer that my parents set up for us. Don't know if that would be the best idea or how my parents would feel about that. But, it's something to think about.
You are welcome. It might be a good idea for you guys to move, or even move the trailer to Potsdam.
 
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I suppose you can talk with Larry on the phone, at times. And can you watch your church's service online, or see a recording later so you can hear Larry? And maybe you can go online and have a conference with him and maybe with others all sharing together.

Our church has a phone call-in service and you can call a number and it connects you with their live service.
 
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Thanks! I will tell Jen you said so!

Yeah I never got my driver's license. I got my permit when I turned 16 and took driver's education but never got my drivers license. Nor do we have a second car anyway even if I did get my license. Although my mom never goes to church anymore because she only goes for her mom and my grandmother is almost in her mid 90s now and is too old to attend Church anymore so my mom doesnt go. I'd ask her to take me if the church wasn't all the way in Canton and if she would have something to do for the hour and a half church is going on. Larry wouldn't mind her attending but she isn't a Protestant she's a Catholic and she wouldn't like his preaching.

I think there's mostly only Catholic Churches here in town. There was a Catholic church that my grandmother and mom used to attend in Moira about 15 minutes from here but they were a pretty heretical church. The priest there taught some pretty bad and weird stuff let's just leave it at that. Even a Catholic would have found his teachings heresy. They've since gotten a new priest and I don't know how liberal or conservative the new priest is but, I don't know if I want to attend a Catholic church. I know my mother would be glad to drive me to a Catholic church though. But maybe I can do a search for some Protestant churches within 20 minutes of here that my mom wouldn't mind driving to and back. Idk. I'll have to look and ask her.


Larry tried setting up Bible studies but nobody came so he hasn't done any Bible studies in years. Our congregation is very small so to even get us attending every Sunday is a challenge for him. They have a woman's group for women only that Jen has been wanting to attend if the church was closer to us.


I don't know. Maybe someday we will consider moving to Potsdam. Potsdam has a Walmart and a much bigger Walmart so Jen could easily transfer there and we would be less than 10 minutes away from church. We would still have the Sunday problem but I could carpool to church because I know Larry would pick me up every Sunday on his way to work. It would be out of his way but it would be extremely close so I know he would do it.

It costs a lot to live in Potsdam but it could be a maybe idea.
Of Protestant churches the PCA is probably well above average, so good for that. Do they have any sort of midweek service?

I just say no to work on Sunday, well, ever so rarely on a Sunday evening. But then I am able to set my own schedule. Once in a while I avail myself of a Saturday evening mass and go sailing Sundays. You would be welcome to attend a Catholic mass so at least you could hear the readings. The advantage here is they do this seven days a week, so you could do this on Thursdays or whatever. You would only hear the Thursday reading and a minimal homily but ....

But there is another option. Not as good as being there, I'll grant you, but watching from home. During Covid we did that. We could watch at our presumed new parish, our old parish, our old cathedral, new cathedral, a Latin mass locally, and others too. Maybe there is a PCA church that does that. Maybe your PCA church could do that for you.

Do look into your elder picking you up. Sounds like the best option, at least for you if not for your wife.

Keep us posted.
 
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Of Protestant churches the PCA is probably well above average, so good for that. Do they have any sort of midweek service?

I just say no to work on Sunday, well, ever so rarely on a Sunday evening. But then I am able to set my own schedule. Once in a while I avail myself of a Saturday evening mass and go sailing Sundays. You would be welcome to attend a Catholic mass so at least you could hear the readings. The advantage here is they do this seven days a week, so you could do this on Thursdays or whatever. You would only hear the Thursday reading and a minimal homily but ....

But there is another option. Not as good as being there, I'll grant you, but watching from home. During Covid we did that. We could watch at our presumed new parish, our old parish, our old cathedral, new cathedral, a Latin mass locally, and others too. Maybe there is a PCA church that does that. Maybe your PCA church could do that for you.

Do look into your elder picking you up. Sounds like the best option, at least for you if not for your wife.

Keep us posted.

Yeah the PCA is great i love our denomination and I love our church and our Elders and I loved attending several times a month back before my wife started working. It was gas money that prevented us from attending every week back then. Larry offered to pay for our gas but we were just too proud to accept it. We were just solely living off of my ssi check back then because it was the only income we had.

Yeah Walmart kind of sets her work schedule and now that she's working full time and got promoted she officially has Mondays and Tuesdays off as set days. She doesn't get random days of the week off anymore like she did when she worked part time for the deli and even then she would often for many months at a time not get a Sunday off it was ridiculous. She's mentioned to the human resources manager that she doesn't mind working SOME Sundays but she would like some Sundays off as well because she would like to be able to attend Church with me.

She can request different days off like say i or her have a doctors appointment or a medical emergency to go to and that request gets reviewed by a team lead and accepted or rejected and then a computer will redo her schedule for that week if the team lead accepts it but usually Sundays get rejected because they need her to work on Sundays because shes the only one that works on them i guess in the deli. They need a minimum of 3 people to run the deli on Sunday and most of the 6-7 people that work in the deli at our Walmart don't work on Sundays for whatever reasons. They could always hire more people but that would be a solution that makes sense and Walmart doesn't want to do that. Plus, they're cheap.


My wife has recently requested the 15th off and a team lead accepted her request so she is going to get that day off but I'm just hoping they will give her at least one Sunday a month off as she requests them. Especially so that we can have communion once a month because thats very, very, important. But I should just accept whatever Sundays they give me honestly. That's all I can do. When they need my wife to work Sundays they need her.
 
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She can request different days off like say i or her have a doctors appointment or a medical emergency to go to and that request gets reviewed by a team lead and accepted or rejected and then a computer will redo her schedule for that week if the team lead accepts it but usually Sundays get rejected because they need her to work on Sundays because shes the only one that works on them i guess in the deli. They need a minimum of 3 people to run the deli on Sunday and most of the 6-7 people that work in the deli at our Walmart don't work on Sundays for whatever reasons. They could always hire more people but that would be a solution that makes sense and Walmart doesn't want to do that. Plus, they're cheap.
I try very hard not to go out to stores on Sundays just so people don't have to work on Sundays. But most people do go to stores so there is that demand to make people work. Hospitals and the like I get they HAVE TO be up and running. But the rest ....
My wife has recently requested the 15th off and a team lead accepted her request so she is going to get that day off but I'm just hoping they will give her at least one Sunday a month off as she requests them. Especially so that we can have communion once a month because thats very, very, important. But I should just accept whatever Sundays they give me honestly. That's all I can do. When they need my wife to work Sundays they need her.
It can be a bear living in a secular world that has lost it's Christian sensibilities. Do keep looking for options. Like something via Zoom or You-Tube, or a midweek something or other. Keep letting them know you want to be there. And if an offer of assistance comes up then let them help you to drive you to church or whatever.

You mentioned that the local Catholic church was quite sub-par. Sorry about that. A few really are sub-par. A few are superb. In my old diocese they had two parishes that leaned (actually so far they fell over) heretical. For one of them the diocese installed a young hard hitting priest who grew up in my parish that started to clean the place up. Got many old timers so upset they rented a place down the street and left the parish. (Of course they would say the diocese left them.) Anyhow, it is now a thriving mostly Hispanic church and orthodox to boot. And that priest is now a bishop. That other parish is yet to be cleaned up, but maybe some day in my lifetime, if the priest with whatever dirty secrets he has then gets old and goes to his reward.
 
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Yeah you just can't win on that front though people are always going to be shopping at Walmart and other stores on Sundays. The general workforce who do get weekends off oftentimes only get Saturdays and Sundays off to shop and get their grocery shopping done. Oftentimes people don't want to cook so my wife is stuck cooking their meals for them lol. Our Walmart is just super busy on Sunday and corporate just doesn't care. They have pastors working for them on Sundays after their done preaching at their churches. They just don't care and only care about the massive amount of money they make every Sunday because generally people are atheists and could care less that Sunday and Saturday are holy days that everybody should be getting off from work. They don't care where there's a buck to be made they'll force people, even clergy to work on Holy days.

Yeah many Catholics would have found his teachings heretical. They weren't in line with the teachings of the pope at all. How a Catholic church can not follow the teachings of the pope and still be labeled a Catholic church is beyond me. My mother liked attending his church because of how liberal the church was. He was generally accepting of everything except for same sex marriage. He was against that and that was the only good thing that he fought against but as for his teachings and his general statmentments they were very anti biblical and liberal and were very anti Catholic even.

I'm honestly surprised with how liberal he was that he agreed that same sex marriage should not be allowed in the Catholic church. I'm also ashamed that I argued with him about the subject because I wasn't anything of a Christian back when we had the conversation and I used to attend his church. Obviously I would agree with him now but... I was such a dolt back then...
 
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Yeah you just can't win on that front though people are always going to be shopping at Walmart and other stores on Sundays. The general workforce who do get weekends off oftentimes only get Saturdays and Sundays off to shop and get their grocery shopping done. Oftentimes people don't want to cook so my wife is stuck cooking their meals for them lol. Our Walmart is just super busy on Sunday and corporate just doesn't care. They have pastors working for them on Sundays after their done preaching at their churches. They just don't care and only care about the massive amount of money they make every Sunday because generally people are atheists and could care less that Sunday and Saturday are holy days that everybody should be getting off from work. They don't care where there's a buck to be made they'll force people, even clergy to work on Holy days.
Our society has changed. Yet for what I can control I will not force others to work on Sunday.
Yeah many Catholics would have found his teachings heretical. They weren't in line with the teachings of the pope at all. How a Catholic church can not follow the teachings of the pope and still be labeled a Catholic church is beyond me. My mother liked attending his church because of how liberal the church was. He was generally accepting of everything except for same sex marriage. He was against that and that was the only good thing that he fought against but as for his teachings and his general statmentments they were very anti biblical and liberal and were very anti Catholic even.
Catholics can be a strange breed. We try and fit ourselves into Democratic Party molds or Republican Party molds but we don't fit either. We're a big enough block that if we bothered to vote in line with our faith then both parties would have to change or go extinct. But we're kind of mushy, from bishops to laity. Which is why we get extremes that nobody wants to rein in. I hope that parish gets a cleaning soon.
I'm honestly surprised with how liberal he was that he agreed that same sex marriage should not be allowed in the Catholic church. I'm also ashamed that I argued with him about the subject because I wasn't anything of a Christian back when we had the conversation and I used to attend his church. Obviously I would agree with him now but... I was such a dolt back then...
We live and learn. Some things need to be said. Some don't.
 
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Yeah you just can't win on that front though people are always going to be shopping at Walmart and other stores on Sundays. The general workforce who do get weekends off oftentimes only get Saturdays and Sundays off to shop and get their grocery shopping done. Oftentimes people don't want to cook so my wife is stuck cooking their meals for them lol. Our Walmart is just super busy on Sunday and corporate just doesn't care. They have pastors working for them on Sundays after their done preaching at their churches. They just don't care and only care about the massive amount of money they make every Sunday because generally people are atheists and could care less that Sunday and Saturday are holy days that everybody should be getting off from work. They don't care where there's a buck to be made they'll force people, even clergy to work on Holy days.
You do realize that there are many, many big chain stores open on Sunday......right? You gotta do what you gotta do to make a decent life for yourself. The Almighty ain’t gonna be mad at you. Don’t get all twisted in knots about this or you’ll be miserable for a long time.
 
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Yes, you can plug it into an ai if you want sure. Larry is on vacation all of August (my Elder) so I haven't been able to Email him much or I would have been talking to him about this too.

I told him about the promotion though and he was ecstatic for her. So it's not a complete loss. I think he understands that work gets in the way but at the same time, church attendance is very important. It makes me wish I had a license and a car. I'd go down and drive myself but I don't drive nor do we have a second vehicle. So that idea wouldn't work.

Perhaps someone from church lives near enough to you to be able to pick you up for church on Sunday mornings...

Even if it's just once or twice a month it's still going.. I would certainly ask the congregation and see..
 
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