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Skavau

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I don't need a speech, Skavau, I'm asking you a simple yes-or-no question.
I explained how the scientific method is everything but circular (which is your claim). You clearly did not read it. Your willful anti-intellectualism is noted.

You don't get to pick your answers.

 
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Try it in Latin -- Deus Inscitia Est sounds more impressive, and conveys pretty much the same idea.

Nope --- it's in English so everyone can know where I stand.
 
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Is the principle of induction a scientific principle?

Depends how you mean. It's a principle used by science.

In fact, the principle of induction is validated by itself, but at the moment I am of the opinion that it derives ultimate validation from Ockham's razor, since it it is a simpler explanation that the future will mimic the past in certain ways (that is the principle of induction in a nutshell) than any other one I've heard of.

You might be interested to know that induction also validates Ockham's razor (since Ockham's razor has worked in the past, induction tells us it will in the future), but I'm pretty sure that Ockham's razor is so fundamental in the way we think that it is as much an axiom of our thought as is "something cannot be true and false at the same time."

I hope that answers your question, and I hope that you now understand how science doesn't rely on itself for validation.
 
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Did you know the computer was invented by a Creationist?


A creationist or a Christian? It may have been invented by a creationist, I don't know either way. However the principles behind the computer were discovered by scientists. If creationist is happy to use science in one field and deny it in another then he's a hypocrit.

Doesn't make your statement any less ironic though.
 
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Is this a "yes" or a "no"?
 
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As opposed to, say, "Homo sapiens, like all species, has been shaped by positive natural selection. As first articulated by Darwin and Wallace in 1858..."
I'm pretty sure that I wrote some version of the first sentence, and that Pardis originally wrote the second. That was before they went through the sausage-making process, of course.

You'd be a bit of a TE, then...?
That would be a fair conclusion.
 
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I don't need a speech, Skavau, I'm asking you a simple yes-or-no question.
Translation: Waaah! I didn't want a well written, well reasoned response! You used big words and made sense! Stop it! Waaaah!

Skavau: that was eloquently put, thank you.
AVVET: maybe if you weren't so blatant with your lack of understanding, and pride therein, people wouldn't feel the need to correct/inform you. Just a thought. (Ooops, sorry, there I go thinking again.)
 
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Did you know the computer was invented by a Creationist?
O RLY.


By the way, can we expect your verse on atheists being secret nature-worshippers anytime soon?
 
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Does this Creationist have a name?

Alan Turing, but only if he meant to say "was a homosexual"

He may have a different bar for what constitutes a computer though. I'm sure he can find some definition of computer for which he can argue a creationist made the first.
 
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Does this Creationist have a name?
He probably means Charles Babbage, since he fits the description -- except that there are many others with at least as good a claim as Babbage, and of course he wasn't a creationist.
 
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