My Research Challenge Re Creatio Ex Nihilo

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Wrong Again.

last time veridical NDE were mentioned I listed 4 books which have hundreds of papers as references.
and they are just a small selection of many,

Like most of what I refer , I doubt if you even looked them up.
I cannot be bothered to repeat detail.

Try Rivas et al, van lommel, bellg as a start.


Stop writing. Start reading.

Then you might catch up/ understand.
We might then have a basis for a coversation.

Your subjective word “ supernatural “ has no meaning. If it happens in nature it’s natural. The prime cause is a matter of faith for all of us.

I research evidence , science and science philososophy.
I modelled complex physics which started to beg many questions Of “ what is” underlying “ what is observed”

You present just your opinions Of things you never research.

I love how you prove my point. You're not SHOWING ANY EVIDENCE. You're telling us to go do it for you. Which is intellectual laziness of the highest degree. If you want to change someone's mind, you don't go "Oh, go read about it yourself, you'll see " like you do. You make the effort and present actual evidence, actual research, actual stuff to try and show that you're right. This is a repeat pattern from you and I and others are sick of it.

I don't believe a word about you saying anything of you researching at all, because if you did, you'd be able to back up your claims. You've never once backed up your claims, so any attempts from you try and pretend you're some bigshot in the sciences fall absolutely flat because of it.

Yeah, I'm done conversing with you now.

 

[Mountainmike]

I love how you prove my point. You're not SHOWING ANY EVIDENCE. You're telling us to go do it for you. Which is intellectual laziness of the highest degree. If you want to change someone's mind, you don't go "Oh, go read about it yourself, you'll see " like you do. You make the effort and present actual evidence, actual research, actual stuff to try and show that you're right. This is a repeat pattern from you and I and others are sick of it.

I don't believe a word about you saying anything of you researching at all, because if you did, you'd be able to back up your claims. You've never once backed up your claims, so any attempts from you try and pretend you're some bigshot in the sciences fall absolutely flat because of it.

Yeah, I'm done conversing with you now.

I am not posting 10000 pages of books and at least the same in papers to make up for your laziness.

I’ve given several authors and in the past the names of some books.
there are a dozen more after that.

simple research for you : Google “ book “ “ van lommel “ “ NDE
How hard was that?
or Rivas “ the self does not die” for only veridical , refers to others.

When you read them ( at least 5 books for an overview) you are qualified to have an opinion, till then you don’t Have an opinion.
Science involves study and research a commitment you seem unwilling to make.

So on world view - consciousness is not confined to the brain with staggering repercussions for materialism.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I am not posting 10000 pages of books and at least the same in papers to make up for your laziness.

I’ve given several authors and in the past the names of some books.
there are a dozen more after that.

simple research for you : Google “ book “ “ van lommel “ “ NDE
How hard was that?
or Rivas “ the self does not die” for only veridical , refers to others.

When you read them ( at least 5 books for an overview) you are qualified to have an opinion, till then you don’t Have an opinion.
Science involves study and research a commitment you seem unwilling to make.

So on world view - consciousness is not confined to the brain with staggering repercussions for materialism.

No-one is asking you to post 1000+ plus pages of books! If they can make claims, then surely you can find those same things online. Look for them, copy the links, post them! I'd have thought that someone like you would understand that simple fact but clearly, you're too smart of even know how to simply copy and past a link. Or even quote a passage from an online copy of the book which exist.

I'm not spending my time researching your claims to see if they stand up to scrutiny. That's not how it works. You make the claims, you present the evidence. How long have you been doing this that you can't even understand this basic thing?

You'd make a horrible teacher, since it is 100% your entire attitude to this that is making me not want to even imagine holding anything you say as being factual.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Thanks for asking. Ok.
Timeout for a serious family health Issue.
Writing . Studying.
I sometimes wonder what the point is of the same old arguments with the same people!

Sorry for the late reply, I hope your family health issue is resolved brother. And I agree it seems everyone is pretty much set in their theology although I do learn new things from time to time which is encouraging to continue here on CF. I had left for a brief while to take a break from the monotony of the same old arguments. I started to worry that maybe the only reason I was coming here was to engage in arguments but after a while I decided it’s not what I’m looking for it’s just something that often happens as a result of preaching unreformed theology. I’ve pretty much gotten to the point that I just ignore the same people I’ve engaged with on certain topics. No point in beating a dead horse. Anyways just wanted to say hi and it’s nice to see you back. God bless brother.

 

[Aldebaran]

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