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A hospital? medicine that cures cancer? bridges? clean drinking water?
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Would your logic apply to a hard-boiled egg created ex nihilo as well? a tractor? a car? a city? a planet?
A hospital? medicine that cures cancer? bridges? clean drinking water?Yes.
But you sure know how to accuse an innocent person of being deceptive, don't you?
Do you realize a child would just eat the thing and not care?
What if I created truckloads of raisin bread ex nihilo (including the trucks) and gave them to starving children in India?
Would you order a halt to my "shenanigans"?
Well if exceptions to your accusations bother you that much, you're certainly entitled to your own opinion.The fact that you are now going down this line of "argument", shows how weak and silly your entire case is.
So they would be wrong, but it would be my fault … right?
Would your logic apply to a hard-boiled egg created ex nihilo as well? a tractor? a car? a city? a planet?
A hospital? medicine that cures cancer? bridges? clean drinking water?
A hospital? medicine that cures cancer? bridges? clean drinking water?
Well if exceptions to your accusations bother you that much, you're certainly entitled to your own opinion.
First of all, I don't like raisin bread, so I'd probably throw it to the birds.Here's my raisin bread challenge to you, AV.
A man walks up to you and states: god sent me to bring you this holy raisin bread. You cannot eat it and you cannot remove it from your home or hide it from sight, or you'll go to hell.
You won't find out if this guy was telling the truth or not until you die.
Will you burden yourself with unremarkable, eventually rotting loaf of bread on the chance that this guy is telling the truth, despite no evidence for it?
So now you might go to hell because you assumed he lied, since the premise is that you can't know for sure either way. Congratulations, you now are in the non-raisin bread denomination of Christianity that the raisin bread denomination condemns to hellFirst of all, I don't like raisin bread, so I'd probably throw it to the birds.
Second of all, the man made a BIG mistake when he contradicted the Bible.
Thirdly, he contradicted the Bible with, "God sent me …"
Deuteronomy 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Lucky for him there are no more prophets since AD 96, or he would have committed a capital crime.
I didn't assume he lied.So now you might go to hell because you assumed he lied,
lol, I gave no details, but imagined it was a homeless looking guy in his 50s XD, not a kid. Pfft, LSD. Look at all these details you decided to add, they say a bit about you but lend nothing to the actual situation I presented.I didn't assume he lied.
He lied.
I know soteriology enough to know he's probably a college-educated kid.
Probably on [scientist-created] LSD.
Okay, Sarah, I'll parse this thing and tell you the first thing that goes through my mind as he's talking.lol, I gave no details, but imagined it was a homeless looking guy in his 50s XD, not a kid. Pfft, LSD. Look at all these details you decided to add, they say a bit about you but lend nothing to the actual situation I presented.
Your response violates the premise, which is that you CAN'T know if the guy is lying or not. I can easily rework the scenario such that you can no longer turn to any bible verses for an answer if you want to keep being difficult about it. I hope you don't make me do that, though, because I am a lazy person at heart.Okay, Sarah, I'll parse this thing and tell you the first thing that goes through my mind as he's talking.
Fair enough?
Man: God sent me …
AV: Oh-oh. Charismatic here. Or Pentecostal.
Man: … to bring you this holy raisin bread.
AV: Nut.
Man: You cannot eat it …
AV: Good. I don't like raisin bread anyway.
Man: ... and you cannot remove it from your home or hide it from sight,
AV: Then I'm not going to take it.
Man: … or you'll go to hell.
AV: Invite him to church.
Sarah: You won't find out if this guy was telling the truth or not until you die.
AV: I already know if he's telling the truth or not. I don't need to die first.
By pretending to be God. Your antics on this forum demonstrate that you are not God, so the pretense would be your deception.I create a loaf of raisin bread ex nihilo.
Am I being deceptive? if so, how?
While I glad you acknowledge that only God can create ex nihilo, I'm saddened that you choose not to take the intellectual approach and answer the challenge.By pretending to be God. Your antics on this forum demonstrate that you are not God, so the pretense would be your deception.
And here you have it folks, an admittance that one need check their brain at the door to accept untenable religious claims.While I glad you acknowledge that only God can create ex nihilo, I'm saddened that you choose not to take the intellectual approach and answer the challenge.
How was my response not an answer to your poorly worded challenge?While I glad you acknowledge that only God can create ex nihilo, I'm saddened that you choose not to take the intellectual approach and answer the challenge.
I create a loaf of raisin bread ex nihilo.
Am I being deceptive? if so, how?
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