My plea for equality.

[Da_Funkey_Gibbon]

The whole rights thing is a bit of a minefield.

What about the rights of employers to employ who they wish for example.
The balance is hard to strike, but in the end a lot of people are meanies and the law will have to strike a balance.

Kedaman: I am actually a bit of a fan of the "Rights being immoral" stance, because when you break things down, it's really all about power, on both sides. And the desire for power is moraly wrong IMO, even to do good (God does not exeret power over people, what right have we to exert power over people). Therefore all power is wrong, but this mean you have to let go of all political stances, even a desire to, say, stop the neo-nazi movement from taking power. (Yes I did get this Idea from Tolkien)

 

[FadingWhispers3]

Life is a privilege, not a right.

Are you sure you want to follow this line of reasoning? If life is a privilege and not a right, then even if fetuses are human beings there is no defense that they ought to be protected.

 

[kedaman]

Yes, we ought not to protect fetuses (not ought to not, nor have the right to abortion for that matter, just to make sure there are no misunderstandings here).

Btw, all exercise of power is not immoral, it's earthly (materialistic) power that is immoral, and that is a desire to power as you say Da_Funkey_Gibbon. Observe the inconsistency in that claim, to desire power, that if you didn't have the power then you would not be able to exercice it, but not until the end the worldly ruler will discover that his power was an illusion created by his desire of it, since he had by the desire admit that he had in himself no actual power to begin with. Spiritual power is given by God however and we do nothing by ourselves but by God.

 

[Isis-Astoroth]

Speaking as an expert in Hate crime these laws exist to protect people against the very individuals who believe that someone has less of a right to live in peace because their skin is particular colour or they happen to have a different belief to others or are disabled in some way or live a different lifestyle to others. These laws will remain as long as these individuals practice hate crime.

What I am saying is that we shouldn't need these laws. We treat people unequally and it is degrading to the group that isn't treated fairly.

 

[morningstar2651]

The whole point is that it shouldn't be neccisary to tell people not to be jerkfaces to people that are different.

 

[GreenDragon]

We could start with equality on this site; we already have sections denoted only for Christians, and then the "everybody else can post here too" sections. When I first joined this forum and saw that I went :O are you kidding me??