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My great idea is about avoiding pandemic pandemoniums in the future based on Christ's teachings!

- Natural selection - choose a partner based on the strength of their immune system not on how much money they make. Jesus taught us not to love money which means it should not affect our choices! And health is wealth right??? It's just a lot easier to see money but looks can be quite deceiving!

- Stop spending any money on healthcare and medicines - use cheap / free natural remedies and again, this is part of the natural selection process. Jesus taught us NOT to save our lives...it figures....

If we do this in the next 1000 years, we'll all be immune to all diseases and their mutations.

As Jesus told us, Our love of money and saving our lives is leading to our own destruction
 

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My great idea is about avoiding pandemic pandemoniums in the future based on Christ's teachings!

- Natural selection - choose a partner based on the strength of their immune system not on how much money they make. Jesus taught us not to love money which means it should not affect our choices! And health is wealth right??? It's just a lot easier to see money but looks can be quite deceiving!

- Stop spending any money on healthcare and medicines - use cheap / free natural remedies and again, this is part of the natural selection process. Jesus taught us NOT to save our lives...it figures....

If we do this in the next 1000 years, we'll all be immune to all diseases and their mutations.

As Jesus told us, Our love of money and saving our lives is leading to our own destruction

Natural selection: that is the least romantic suggestion I have ever read. One should choose a partner based on their overall qualities as a human being, not on their immune system (how does one measure that?)

Healthcare and medicines are essential in many cases. Imagine how many more millions would die from COVID-19 without them.

I consider both of your suggestions naive and dangerous.
 
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Healthcare and medicines are essential in many cases.

Rats don't use medicines nor technology but they are far better able to repel disease and infection than even the best of our technology....

It's hard proof that natural selection is better than human intervention. God's design is > human medicinal technology any day.


I consider both of your suggestions naive and dangerous.

My concern is for the long term survival of the human race

NOT just short term inconveniences.

It's investing for the very long term. If we do it, in the next 1000 years, we won't be needing medicines anymore.
 
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Natural selection: that is the least romantic suggestion I have ever read. One should choose a partner based on their overall qualities as a human being, not on their immune system (how does one measure that?)

Healthcare and medicines are essential in many cases. Imagine how many more millions would die from COVID-19 without them.

I consider both of your suggestions naive and dangerous.
So, I would strike a balance. While certainly the qualities of a person are more important, sometimes there are physical traits to take into consideration too. For example, I'm way below average height so personally I'm looking for a woman who at least has tall relatives for the benefit of our future children. America is made for tall/big people and sometimes it's just difficult to function in certain situations (not to mention finding clothes... sheesh). So I would want to be responsible by trying to give my kids a little more height than myself.

However, I would also be open to a short woman with short relatives if it's God's will and we're in love.

If people choose according to immune systems, though, I'm in luck. I have fought off some pretty miserable infections without using medicine, so I think I must have a decent immune system by now.
 
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So basically, let people die at a much higher rate for a thousand years. No thanks.

Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.

We all are part of a body. Our concerns should be for the body as a whole (the entire human race). not blind (short-sighted) selfish desires.

There's a really bad warning to those who continue in their worldiness (lack of cooperation to sustain each other) and they will be cut off eventually.
 
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If people choose according to immune systems, though, I'm in luck. I have fought off some pretty miserable infections without using medicine, so I think I must have a decent immune system by now.

That's very good for you.
 
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My great idea is about avoiding pandemic pandemoniums in the future based on Christ's teachings!

- Natural selection - choose a partner based on the strength of their immune system not on how much money they make. Jesus taught us not to love money which means it should not affect our choices! And health is wealth right??? It's just a lot easier to see money but looks can be quite deceiving!

- Stop spending any money on healthcare and medicines - use cheap / free natural remedies and again, this is part of the natural selection process. Jesus taught us NOT to save our lives...it figures....

If we do this in the next 1000 years, we'll all be immune to all diseases and their mutations.

As Jesus told us, Our love of money and saving our lives is leading to our own destruction
Where did Jesus say pick your wife based on how healthy her immune system is? I must have missed that verse.
 
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Natural selection: that is the least romantic suggestion I have ever read. One should choose a partner based on their overall qualities as a human being, not on their immune system (how does one measure that?)

They have a tendency to have ancestors that were living in poverty or practicing simple living - real CHristian values, not the worldly version of Christianity.
 
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Where did Jesus say pick your wife based on how healthy her immune system is? I must have missed that verse.

You can also pick someone who is truly following Christ. They tend to lead very simple lives, not worldly in any sense. Content with very little. They are quite unlikely to be rich in the worldly sense.
 
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You can also pick someone who is truly following Christ. They tend to lead very simple lives, not worldly in any sense. Content with very little. They are quite unlikely to be rich in the worldly sense.
I would go for one who was both rich and holy, I mean, might as well have the best of both worlds!
 
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I would go for one who was both rich and holy, I mean, might as well have the best of both worlds!
I'd rather be the rich and holy man who finds a poor, innocent peasant girl and sweeps her off her feet. Oops... was that chauvinistic? ^_^
 
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I'd rather be the rich and holy man who finds a poor, innocent peasant girl and sweeps her off her feet. Oops... was that chauvinistic? ^_^
Well okay, but only if you want to work like a dog for the rest of your life... I speak from some experience, lol.
 
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If we do this in the next 1000 years

Well, no one should accuse you of being myopic. I agree with you; although, it is highly improbable that humans, as we know them, could ever be so selfless as to act on behalf of an outcome some 1,000 years from now. As you point out, only someone who lives solely for the sake of others could do such a thing. When was the last time a whole group of people lived like that? You know, like Jesus? As I say, not likely to happen.
 
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My great idea is about avoiding pandemic pandemoniums in the future based on Christ's teachings!- Natural selection - choose a partner based on the strength of their immune system not on how much money they make. Jesus taught us not to love money which means it should not affect our choices! And health is wealth right??? It's just a lot easier to see money but looks can be quite deceiving!- Stop spending any money on healthcare and medicines - use cheap / free natural remedies and again, this is part of the natural selection process. Jesus taught us NOT to save our lives...it figures....If we do this in the next 1000 years, we'll all be immune to all diseases and their mutations.As Jesus told us, Our love of money and saving our lives is leading to our own destruction

You neglected to post any of those teachings.
 
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You neglected to post any of those teachings.

You would have recognized those teachings if you read the Bible.

Do I have to quote the verses? They seem to be quite popular Biblical teachings.

One reason why Jesus spoke in parables, is for those who have the "ears to hear" those who might understand them and for those who might have made fun of it to leave it alone.
 
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Well, no one should accuse you of being myopic. I agree with you; although, it is highly improbable that humans, as we know them, could ever be so selfless as to act on behalf of an outcome some 1,000 years from now. As you point out, only someone who lives solely for the sake of others could do such a thing. When was the last time a whole group of people lived like that? You know, like Jesus? As I say, not likely to happen.

Perhaps, it's not coincidence that everything that Jesus taught leads to eternal life would also lead to the eternal survival of the human race (long term sustainability)

Jesus kept telling how we are collectively like parts of a body.

Imagine if one part of your body decided to do its own way. That's basically how cancer works.

It's even more disturbing that Christian themselves would make fun of these teachings in complete disregard and disrespect.

Why hate / oppose the teachings of Christ? It's essentially hating Christ Himself.
 
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I would go for one who was both rich and holy, I mean, might as well have the best of both worlds!

Jesus tells it's very difficult for the rich to get saved, as well as plenty of warnings about the deceitfulness of wealth....

Not to mention, even one of the wisest man that ever lived - King Solomon failed to handle his great material wealth as the Lord would have wanted. Solomon instead spent his vast wealth on his many foreign wives and their false Gods.

If we like something so dangerous that the Bible kept warning us against, is it possible we actually love it than we dare to admit?
 
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Jesus kept telling how we are collectively like parts of a body.

Imagine if one part of your body decided to do its own way. That's basically how cancer works.

I want to say that was Paul, but I'm with you. I would say something similar about the notion of "taking up one's cross daily." It's a call to imitate him. What did his cross represent? Sacrifice for others. The great irony is, if everyone did that, no one would go without because everyone would be other-person oriented. If everyone were oriented towards the needs of others, then when someone was in need, everybody would be focused on meeting that need. In its most radical sense (and, in the most improbable sense) it would be just as you say: living for the sake of others, including those who lived a 1,000 years from now.

The same for "seeking to save your life." What does it mean to "lose our lives for his name's sake"? I think it means his name is honored, and our identity as followers bonafide, when we live the self-giving life as he did. Same thing.

It's even more disturbing that Christian themselves would make fun of these teachings in complete disregard and disrespect.

I'm not sure who is doing that, specifically. I do believe in the society in which I live there is a radical individualism and love of things/pleasure that prevents the kind of life we are called to live. There's no doubt about that.

But, again, what you are talking about is so unlikely it is hardly worth mentioning. I don't mean that as an offense, but just to make the point. People might sacrifice for their children or grandchildren. But, when you are talking a generation a 1,000 years from now, people can't put that in perspective. It's near impossible to make those kinds of moral commitments.
 
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