My pastor was a good example of sanctification

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Anyway. Very kind tribute to your pastor Rocky. If I recall you have mentioned him before. The best ones keep on teaching even after they are gone.
 
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Anyway. Very kind tribute to your pastor Rocky. If I recall you have mentioned him before. The best ones keep on teaching even after they are gone.
Thanks. It has been a long time since I have been to quality Christian conference. In such environment one can leave with the clean feeling of sanctification.
 
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Thanks. It has been a long time since I have been to quality Christian conference. In such environment one can leave with the clean feeling of sanctification.
I've got a feeling when this quarantine this is over there may be a rush of quality conferences. We need it!
 
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The culture today is extremely narcissistic including the church. Just count how many songs the church sings that are all about us. Not sure there is a single song that doesn’t have to mention us.

And if we list the claims without the inspiring music it’s aweful. They talk about the beautiful duds we wear (undeserved of course so there’s a touch of pseudo humility), how we belong to royalty, what he did for us, how much he loves us, how he’s thinking of so much and just wants to be with us. Me me me me I I I my my my....it’s disgusting.
 
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Our church board thought replacing him would be easy. They have been through many pastors since and the church has done poorly.

Why would anyone think that? That's quite insulting
to the person you admire.
 
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I've got a feeling when this quarantine this is over there may be a rush of quality conferences. We need it!
If people haven’t become more self-consumed and self-praising having time to find all the complimentary scriptures and tell everyone else that describes them. Frankly I was shocked to read a man boldly claimed that he is just like Jeremiah, called from conception and then without batting an eye told of how he physically hurt his sister as a child. No conflict in his self-esteem between deeds and claims.
 
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Why would anyone think that? That's quite insulting
to the person you admire.
I imagine that it is easy to take a humble, no drama servant for granted. The board probably assumed that their own leadership was more significant than it really was. But rather than looking to their faults, blame the new guys.

Also, they probably tried to replace the pastor who was strong where they thought the old pastor was weak. So the likely got new pastors who didn't have the strengths that made the old Pastor successful.

Finally, the new pastor may have been unable to humble himself before the board/congregation, as well as the old pastor did.
 
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Did the church pay him for his services?
 
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Good comment / post.
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One of main issues / problems is 'Church Politics.'
- The focus is on 'status, power...etc.'
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I was involved in several churches.
- During my spiritual journey.. 47 years.
 
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Did the church pay him for his services?

The man had a wife and three kids, whom he put through college and they all turned out well. I don't think he could have done that for free, and, remembering ...

For the scripture saith, thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward. - 1 Timothy 5:18
 
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Our preacher also preached sanctification in the old Methodist way. They would have a ministry planned in hopes of people experiencing the Lord Jesus Christ. If the fruits of that Christ were not apparent spiritually they will tell you to come back tomorrow night, and smile a little as they say it. But once the Christ was formed everyone would rejoice and make a fuss over you, or in the words of the Apostle Paul, glorify God in you (Galatians 1:24)

My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, - Galatians 4:19
 
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But he was only doing his job.
 
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