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My Own View... Does it make any sense?

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Ave Maria

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Hey everyone! Is it possible that God created the universe in 6 days but since 6 days is 1,000 years to God that creation actually took 6,000 years and then He rested for 1,000 years? :confused: This theory seems to make the most sense to me. See, I think I believe in a literal Genesis but I'm honestly not sure. So we have 7,000 years of creation and since mankind was made on the 6th day, I suppose it is possible that they were in the Garden of Eden for at least 1,000 years before they committed the first act of disobediance and then brought sin upon everyone right? And so we have no idea how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden before they committed the first sin but once they did that, they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden and then lived a life in an imperfect world. It would have been perfectly possible for Adam and Eve to live at least a 1,000 years because in the Bible we have many instances of people at least in Genesis of living like 900 years or more. Not only that but before the Fall, there was no death. Many Theistic Evolutionists would say there was no spiritual death but there was physical death. I'd have to disagree because I tend to believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis. Now the only problem I have with this interpretation is that the verses in Genesis say that there was a morning and an evening and that it was the first day. Could the morning and the evening part be metaphors for periods of time within each 1,000 year creation period? :confused: Sorry if this makes no sense but I'm just trying to figure things out! ;)

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Holly, love, isn't this about your forty-third about face on this issue? ;)

To be honest, a six thousand year creation is no more scientifically valid than a six day one.

On the subject of death, if you read it literally it cannot mean physical death, because Adam didn't die "in the day he ate it". But what did happen that same day was that he was expelled from Eden and the intimate presence of God - which is spiritual death.
 
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Karl - Liberal Backslider said:
Holly, love, isn't this about your forty-third about face on this issue? ;)

To be honest, a six thousand year creation is no more scientifically valid than a six day one.

On the subject of death, if you read it literally it cannot mean physical death, because Adam didn't die "in the day he ate it". But what did happen that same day was that he was expelled from Eden and the intimate presence of God - which is spiritual death.

I currently take no position on the issue. I just came up with this and thought it might make a little sense.
 
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Holly3278 said:
Hey everyone! Is it possible that God created the universe in 6 days but since 6 days is 1,000 years to God that creation actually took 6,000 years and then He rested for 1,000 years?

No, and your own Vatican Church would agree.

This theory seems to make the most sense to me. See, I think I believe in a literal Genesis but I'm honestly not sure.

The Vatican Church would probably tell you to read St. Augustine's On Christian Teaching, as would any "Western" orthodox church or denomination. It was the ancient handbook on how to read the Holy Bible in a catholic and orthodox fashion with reason, faith, and belief.

So we have 7,000 years of creation and since mankind was made on the 6th day, I suppose it is possible that they were in the Garden of Eden for at least 1,000 years before they committed the first act of disobediance and then brought sin upon everyone right?

No. You are completely missing the symbolism of the numbers six and one thousand.

Many Theistic Evolutionists would say there was no spiritual death but there was physical death. I'd have to disagree because I tend to believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis.

1. TEs do believe in spiritual death, but not physical death that was caused by original sin. You have it completely lopsided.
2. The Vatican Church would tend to agree with TEs, as it doesn't take Genesis 1 and most of Genesis 2 literally. The only thing that is required of Vatican Catholics is to believe that Adam and Eve were the first spiritually aware humans and that original sin came from them to all of us today.

Now the only problem I have with this interpretation is that the verses in Genesis say that there was a morning and an evening and that it was the first day. Could the morning and the evening part be metaphors for periods of time within each 1,000 year creation period? Sorry if this makes no sense but I'm just trying to figure things out!

Holly, I've given a similar argument of this before; I highly suggest rereading it. In addition, I caution you not to go headlong into things that are new to you. You need to stop, learn, research, ask, learn, research, ask, learn, research, etc., in that order. It will take you more than just one week; if you are serious, it will take you a month or two.

I highly recommend you pick up St. Augustine's On Christian Teaching if you want to learn how your own church reads the Holy Bible (it is how we Anglicans read it too, so I have no problem in suggesting it to you).
 
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PaladinValer said:
No, and your own Vatican Church would agree.



The Vatican Church would probably tell you to read St. Augustine's On Christian Teaching, as would any "Western" orthodox church or denomination. It was the ancient handbook on how to read the Holy Bible in a catholic and orthodox fashion with reason, faith, and belief.



No. You are completely missing the symbolism of the numbers six and one thousand.



1. TEs do believe in spiritual death, but not physical death that was caused by original sin. You have it completely lopsided.
2. The Vatican Church would tend to agree with TEs, as it doesn't take Genesis 1 and most of Genesis 2 literally. The only thing that is required of Vatican Catholics is to believe that Adam and Eve were the first spiritually aware humans and that original sin came from them to all of us today.



Holly, I've given a similar argument of this before; I highly suggest rereading it. In addition, I caution you not to go headlong into things that are new to you. You need to stop, learn, research, ask, learn, research, ask, learn, research, etc., in that order. It will take you more than just one week; if you are serious, it will take you a month or two.

I highly recommend you pick up St. Augustine's On Christian Teaching if you want to learn how your own church reads the Holy Bible (it is how we Anglicans read it too, so I have no problem in suggesting it to you).

Well, as I told my Priest today in our meeting to study, I believe in some form of a combination of evolution and creation. Probably something like Theistic Evolution. And from what he told me, the Catholic Church does not have an official stance on the interpretation of the Genesis account of creation. I wasn't saying that this is what I believed for sure or anything. It's just a theory I made up. And besides, why should I have to fit under some label like "Young Earth Creationist" or "Old Earth Creationist" or "Theistic Evolutionist"? If you ask me, none of them really make complete sense. I'll exclude Old Earth Creationism from that though since I really know next to nothing about it. But you're right, I need to ask questions and study some more. You actually seemed to be kind of offended or something by my post and I apologise if I did offend. I really wasn't being all that serious when I posted it. It was just something I came up with off the top of my head and wanted other people's (yes that includes you ;) )opinions about it. But anyway, thanks for the commentary! :thumbsup:

God Bless,
Holly :wave:
 
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I believe that God could have taken as long as he wanted to for Creation, be it six nanoseconds, or six gazillion years,or somewhere inbetween...whichever it is, God created everything, the Heavens and the Earth. I do not know why people get so offended at differences in terms or ideas of how long it took to God create things, because that really puzzles me. I think your theory is valid, Holly, just as anyone elses may be just as valid. Everyone needs to sort things out to their understanding somehow, otherwise, we are just plain confused. I support your endeavor. :)
 
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Holly3278 said:
Hey everyone! Is it possible that God created the universe in 6 days but since 6 days is 1,000 years to God that creation actually took 6,000 years and then He rested for 1,000 years? :confused: This theory seems to make the most sense to me. See, I think I believe in a literal Genesis but I'm honestly not sure. So we have 7,000 years of creation and since mankind was made on the 6th day, I suppose it is possible that they were in the Garden of Eden for at least 1,000 years before they committed the first act of disobediance and then brought sin upon everyone right? And so we have no idea how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden before they committed the first sin but once they did that, they were kicked out of the Garden of Eden and then lived a life in an imperfect world. It would have been perfectly possible for Adam and Eve to live at least a 1,000 years because in the Bible we have many instances of people at least in Genesis of living like 900 years or more. Not only that but before the Fall, there was no death. Many Theistic Evolutionists would say there was no spiritual death but there was physical death. I'd have to disagree because I tend to believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis. Now the only problem I have with this interpretation is that the verses in Genesis say that there was a morning and an evening and that it was the first day. Could the morning and the evening part be metaphors for periods of time within each 1,000 year creation period? :confused: Sorry if this makes no sense but I'm just trying to figure things out! ;)

God Bless,
Holly :wave:

Holly, it makes a whole load more sense than what some people on here believe ;) but like I think you realise there is a fundamental problem. We are told that death entered into the world by sin (Romans 5:12), and since man didn't fall until after the 6th day, there can have been no death during the first 6000 years. I suppose you could say that's possible, but if you don't admit 6000 years of a 'death-free' world, your idea doesn't figure.

Peter
 
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