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My Oppinion .. (Is this in the right Place?)

Would you think the world would be Better or Worse?

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Here is what I think.

If we all were born with a soul and every time we hurt someone a peice of are soul was taken away. What kind of world would we live in.. Would it be a world of devastation or would it be a world of happiness?

The real question I ask my self when I say this is.. Would we be born with the knowledge of are soul are would we have to discover it by committing wrong.

I personally think that we would have to do something wrong so that we would all relate to are soul being taken away and I believe that the world would be a paradise because we would all have the exact same level of are soul..

Of course this is just a thought.. But what if it were so?
 

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I have no idea what this means.
What is a soul, that some of it can be taken away? I can understand what it would be to lose a little of your body, but isn't your soul your identity? Isn't this a little bit like having your brain slowly disconnected? So basically, every time you do something wrong, you get lobotomized?
Besides, what's wrong with hurting someone? It toughens them up, it's good for them. Basically, it's like vegetables.
 
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I think I understand what the OP is trying to say. I think the world would be an even worse place because as we lost part of our soul, we would lose even more the image of God within us, and so we would sin more and more, lose more and more until we were nothing but murdering monsters.

I believe it is only this seed of God within us that keeps us human.

Lisa
 
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I have no idea what this means.
What is a soul, that some of it can be taken away? I can understand what it would be to lose a little of your body, but isn't your soul your identity? Isn't this a little bit like having your brain slowly disconnected? So basically, every time you do something wrong, you get lobotomized?
Besides, what's wrong with hurting someone? It toughens them up, it's good for them. Basically, it's like vegetables.
Exactly.

Is a soul like a jar of sand? I think we need some evidence for the existance of a soul, evidence for the nature of souls, and various other things before we can make an assupmtion like this.
 
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I think I understand what the OP is trying to say. I think the world would be an even worse place because as we lost part of our soul, we would lose even more the image of God within us, and so we would sin more and more, lose more and more until we were nothing but murdering monsters.

I believe it is only this seed of God within us that keeps us human.

Lisa

My neoPlatonism detector just exploded.
 
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Exactly.

Is a soul like a jar of sand? I think we need some evidence for the existence of a soul, evidence for the nature of souls, and various other things before we can make an assumption like this.
I think this is more of a theological debate, not philosophical. Because, one has to assume the existence of a soul before one can answer this question.
 
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You take modernism or whatever, and I will stick to the foolishness of the cross. ;)

I... meant Descartes and those after him as the answer to NeoPlatonism.
Also, I've always found Kierkegaard to be a much more palatable theologian than all those ancients. Augustine? Please.
 
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Instruction to you all.

A soul in this context is what I consider another person deep inside you that can be taken away (in this case)

Normally its about the same thing because you can get hurt you can get destoryed but you can also get rebuilt.

My theory is that if you take away the rebuilding process and just leave ever person in the world with the hurt would the hurt be enough to keep you from doing more harm?..

Or would it make you a soulless person that goes against God.

My other thing about the soul in this case is that the soul is directly linked to God .. You don't have to accept him necessarily but only to ask him to forgive you of your one sin that you commit in your own choice with full knowledge of what your doing wrong ..

Which would in essence mean that we would all be super smart babies but that doesn't matter lets say that in this case we have a sub conscience and everyone hurt's one of there parents first and everyone loses a part of there soul...

Lets just say it was all the same incidence that made your soul be essentially "taken" away but only a small part of it.

And lets also say you lose 1 year of your life for every 1 out of 113 parts of your Soul that is taken away.

How would then a human react.. Your soul would be the ultimate Decision of life and death. Thats my oppinion on it..

And no it is not a Theological debate.. Its to discuss my Theory which Is now..

A soul in this context is what I consider another person deep inside you that can be taken away (in this case)

Normally its about the same thing because you can get hurt you can get destoryed but you can also get rebuilt.

My theory is that if you take away the rebuilding process and just leave ever person in the world with the hurt would the hurt be enough to keep you from doing more harm?..

Or would it make you a soulless person that goes against God.

My other thing about the soul in this case is that the soul is directly linked to God .. You don't have to accept him necessarily but only to ask him to forgive you of your one sin that you commit in your own choice with full knowledge of what your doing wrong ..

Which would in essence mean that we would all be super smart babies but that doesn't matter lets say that in this case we have a sub conscience and everyone hurt's one of there parents first and everyone loses a part of there soul...

Lets just say it was all the same incidence that made your soul be essentially "taken" away but only a small part of it.

And lets also say you lose 1 year of your life for every 1 out of 113 parts of your Soul that is taken away.

I know I reposted the same thing..
But I think everyone will understand me now on what I created this forum for..

Hope I cleared yall up a bit.... That is my new theory so Take that into count and add in the other part.

(This is just a theory and since I will add more factors in it after everyone gets it.. then we can have a full blow discussion I am just trying to clear up a few things and this is just based off of my Beliefs So lets not discuss small things.. Lets discuss my full theory Thanks ..
Just me.)
 
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If you do not believe in a soul or sub conscience then i guess you just shouldn't post in this Topic that I started... Unless you want to see what I think a soul is??...

Just.. Me...

( I only said that because of the fact that I don't want to get off topic at all..)
 
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I think I understand what the OP is trying to say. I think the world would be an even worse place because as we lost part of our soul, we would lose even more the image of God within us, and so we would sin more and more, lose more and more until we were nothing but murdering monsters.

I believe it is only this seed of God within us that keeps us human.

Lisa
Explain your self in more of a full detail after including my change to my theory (Which is on the bottom of page 2 my second post) .. Take that into account and explain your self in points and in full if you wouldn't mind?

Thanks a bunch Lisa0315!!!
 
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I think that was supposed to clear things up, but I understand the question so much less than I did before. Is a soul the same as who someone is? What does this mean? Does this mean someone's name, does this mean someone's personality, etc.? How could any one of these things be taken away?
It seems that instead of defining what a soul is, you're just lumping a bunch of characteristics onto it. So, try again. What is a soul, essentially?
 
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I think I understand what HM...IAC is saying. We're going to have to assume, like he says, that there is a soul.
Instruction to you all.

A soul in this context is what I consider another person deep inside you that can be taken away (in this case)
I don't think it matters as long as you assume we have a soul that is in some sense separate from ourselves.

Normally its about the same thing because you can get hurt you can get destoryed but you can also get rebuilt.
You mean emotionally/morally wrecked I assume.

My theory is that if you take away the rebuilding process and just leave ever person in the world with the hurt would the hurt be enough to keep you from doing more harm?..
In other words: If every time man sinned, his soul was weakened and man presumably felt that loss, he would be more inclined to stop sinning.

Or would it make you a soulless person that goes against God.
Question mark!
As to your question/statement, unless man somehow managed to stop sinning, or the portions taken away from his soul are minuscule, that would eventually happen.

My other thing about the soul in this case is that the soul is directly linked to God .. You don't have to accept him necessarily but only to ask him to forgive you of your one sin that you commit in your own choice with full knowledge of what your doing wrong ..
What?

Which would in essence mean that we would all be super smart babies but that doesn't matter lets say that in this case we have a sub conscience and everyone hurt's one of there parents first and everyone loses a part of there soul...
Again, what?

Lets just say it was all the same incidence that made your soul be essentially "taken" away but only a small part of it.
I think that rather than using the term "taken away" you should use the idea of the soul being damaged with no hope of repair. Makes a lot more sense than the idea that the soul is something material--like a loaf of bread that we can just grab a hunk off.

And lets also say you lose 1 year of your life for every 1 out of 113 parts of your Soul that is taken away.
Right. So every time we're an idiot we loose a year of our life with a maximum lifespan of 113 years.

How would then a human react.. Your soul would be the ultimate Decision of life and death. Thats my oppinion on it..
Well, I think the human race would have ended with Adam and Eve.

And no it is not a Theological debate.. Its to discuss my Theory which Is now..
Because you assume a soul and a moral God, it is really more a theological debate.

Hope I cleared yall up a bit.... That is my new theory so Take that into count and add in the other part.
Rightio.

So lets not discuss small things.. Lets discuss my full theory Thanks
The devil is in the details.

First off, you seem to be talking more about a conscience here.
Secondly, your version of the soul could also use some tweaking; the soul is generally viewed as the part of us with which we make willful decisions, but this wouldn't fit well with your theory.

That aside, it probably wouldn't work. My 5 year old brother has most definitely screwed up enough to be killed, and he probably wouldn't know enough to stop (Mayhap that was you meant when you said we needed "supersmart babies".) And really, when you think about it the likelihood that any human being in the history of mankind could keep this requirement is next to nothing. It completely jibes with the doctrine of original sin and assumes that we somehow would be able to attain perfection. If you wanted to make it at all practical you would need a few million "pieces" of our soul and only a minute or so taken away each time we screwed up. Even with this, there would be a great many people dying at age 17.

His theory for anyone who wants to know seems to be this:
If every time man sinned, his soul was weakened and man presumably felt that loss, he would be more inclined to stop sinning. At least that appears to be your idea.
 
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