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I don't see how anything other than evolution (descent with modification) can explain phylogenetic trees.
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I wish that I could go back in time and put a flag or something in DNA so that today we could see that this flag traversed time and ended up in us from our primordial ancestors. Then you'd have to believe in evolution.
Waitaminute.
There is such a thing. Endogenous Retroviruses. Over time, in many spots in our genome, we find that virii have inserted themselves into our DNA. They did this by contaminating a sperm or an egg and so the insertion was passed down from generation to generation. What's amazing is that we find these ERVs in all forms of life. AND we find them in the same places in the genome of a chimp, say, as we do in the human being. This means that the common ancestor of the chimp and human was the creature into which the virus inserted itself. Thus both the chimp and human show the ERV insertion in the same place. We also find that while chimps and humans share these ERVs, gorillas do not. But chimps, gorillas and humans do share others. Others that orangutans do not. We find these insertions all along the primate tree, just as were predicted by evolutionary theory as to when we broke away from them via a common ancestor.
Retroviruses are also present in all classifications of animals.
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 4
Waitaminute.
There is such a thing. Endogenous Retroviruses. Over time, in many spots in our genome, we find that virii have inserted themselves into our DNA. They did this by contaminating a sperm or an egg and so the insertion was passed down from generation to generation. What's amazing is that we find these ERVs in all forms of life. AND we find them in the same places in the genome of a chimp, say, as we do in the human being. This means that the common ancestor of the chimp and human was the creature into which the virus inserted itself. Thus both the chimp and human show the ERV insertion in the same place. We also find that while chimps and humans share these ERVs, gorillas do not. But chimps, gorillas and humans do share others. Others that orangutans do not. We find these insertions all along the primate tree, just as were predicted by evolutionary theory as to when we broke away from them via a common ancestor.
Retroviruses are also present in all classifications of animals.
29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 4
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Cosmic Evolution had a beginning when pre-existing pure Enery converted into Matter with a Big Bang that hurled elemental particles out in an ever growing expansion of the newly appeared Space required to contain such matter.
Gen. 1:1 In the beginning, (the Formative/Cosmology Era), God, (the Uncaused First Cause, or the Dark Energy which pre-existed the material Universe, perhaps), created... (all that which has followed the Big Bang from the singularity of Planck Time which consisted of Seven Stages:
1) The Inflation Era
2) The Quark Era
3) Hadron Era
4) Lepton Era
5) Nucleosynthesis Era
6) Opaque Era
7) Matter Era,...
...in an enormous Einsteinian energy transformation, E = mC^2), the (matter composing the) heaven (beyond the Solar System) and the (accretion disk which congealed into the planet) earth.
This is all very fancy. Have you got any evidence to back your interpretation? What in the Bible specifies the difference between the Hadron era and the Lepton era, for example?
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Phred, thank you. That is the kind of thing I am looking for. You made a claim, supported it, and gave me things I can look for to find other sources. The only problem I have is that I asked for at least two sources for a piece of evidence. While I'm sure I could go and find another source for how retroviruses are support for evolution, could you provide another as well?
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DNA-analysis shows that all known organisms are related, and in what fashion. The phylogenetic tree of life is a family tree. Evolution is the only logical explanation for that.
See the Tree of Life Project. Tree of Life Web Project
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I'm not knowledgeable enough to contest that, but I'll make a good point:
What does it matter? evolutionists have been saying all known organisms are related, long before DNA was ever discovered.
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Yes, because the theory of evolution predicted that, even before the DNA-helix was discovered by Watson and Crick.
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I predict that cosmic evolution will assume all matter and energy are related to the Big Bang.
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AV, if you aren't going to add anything of value, please go and play somewhere else. If you are going to post, play by the rules I laid down in the OP, okay?
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Well, you did yours first, so I thought tit-for-tat was fair play.
Nonetheless, I have responded to your thread with a legitimate post, can you do the same for this thread?
Nonetheless, I have responded to your thread with a legitimate post, can you do the same for this thread?
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After 3 weeks, which way are you convinced, based on the criteria you asked for?
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Well, since Phred was the only one who even came CLOSE to doing what I asked, I'd have to side with evolution.
I hope you're not going to complain. You had a chance to provide evidence that the Biblical account was correct, and you didn't...
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Who me? complain? are you kidding?
This thread is the atheistic version of my Apple Challenge.
The fact that it hasn't been answered after a month shows me [most of] you guys are nothing but Internet scientists.
You talk about evidence, but couldn't produce it if you had to.
Of course, now that I've said this, others just might chime in here and satisfy your OP -- just to prove me wrong.
But I doubt it.
This is one of the best threads I've seen in a long time and ranks right up there with Rocky's million-signatures-by-June thread.
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