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My Knowledge Challenge

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I wish that I could go back in time and put a flag or something in DNA so that today we could see that this flag traversed time and ended up in us from our primordial ancestors. Then you'd have to believe in evolution.

Waitaminute.

There is such a thing. Endogenous Retroviruses. Over time, in many spots in our genome, we find that virii have inserted themselves into our DNA. They did this by contaminating a sperm or an egg and so the insertion was passed down from generation to generation. What's amazing is that we find these ERVs in all forms of life. AND we find them in the same places in the genome of a chimp, say, as we do in the human being. This means that the common ancestor of the chimp and human was the creature into which the virus inserted itself. Thus both the chimp and human show the ERV insertion in the same place. We also find that while chimps and humans share these ERVs, gorillas do not. But chimps, gorillas and humans do share others. Others that orangutans do not. We find these insertions all along the primate tree, just as were predicted by evolutionary theory as to when we broke away from them via a common ancestor.



Retroviruses are also present in all classifications of animals.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 4
 
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This is all very fancy. Have you got any evidence to back your interpretation? What in the Bible specifies the difference between the Hadron era and the Lepton era, for example?
 
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Phred, thank you. That is the kind of thing I am looking for. You made a claim, supported it, and gave me things I can look for to find other sources. The only problem I have is that I asked for at least two sources for a piece of evidence. While I'm sure I could go and find another source for how retroviruses are support for evolution, could you provide another as well?
 
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Can you give a specific example, and explain how evolution explains such a tree?

DNA-analysis shows that all known organisms are related, and in what fashion. The phylogenetic tree of life is a family tree. Evolution is the only logical explanation for that.

See the Tree of Life Project. Tree of Life Web Project
 
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DNA-analysis shows that all known organisms are related, and in what fashion. The phylogenetic tree of life is a family tree. Evolution is the only logical explanation for that.http://tolweb.org/tree/
I'm not knowledgeable enough to contest that, but I'll make a good point:

What does it matter? evolutionists have been saying all known organisms are related, long before DNA was ever discovered.
 
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I'm not knowledgeable enough to contest that, but I'll make a good point:

What does it matter? evolutionists have been saying all known organisms are related, long before DNA was ever discovered.

Yes, because the theory of evolution predicted that, even before the DNA-helix was discovered by Watson and Crick.
 
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Yes, because the theory of evolution predicted that, even before the DNA-helix was discovered by Watson and Crick.
I predict that cosmic evolution will assume all matter and energy are related to the Big Bang.
 
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AV, if you aren't going to add anything of value, please go and play somewhere else. If you are going to post, play by the rules I laid down in the OP, okay?
QV please:
I want to be a 747 that was magically assembled from the parts in a junkyard being randomly blown about by a tornado.
 
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After 3 weeks, which way are you convinced, based on the criteria you asked for?

Well, since Phred was the only one who even came CLOSE to doing what I asked, I'd have to side with evolution.

I hope you're not going to complain. You had a chance to provide evidence that the Biblical account was correct, and you didn't...
 
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Well, since Phred was the only one who even came CLOSE to doing what I asked, I'd have to side with evolution.

I hope you're not going to complain. You had a chance to provide evidence that the Biblical account was correct, and you didn't...
Who me? complain? are you kidding?

This thread is the atheistic version of my Apple Challenge.

The fact that it hasn't been answered after a month shows me [most of] you guys are nothing but Internet scientists.

You talk about evidence, but couldn't produce it if you had to.

Of course, now that I've said this, others just might chime in here and satisfy your OP -- just to prove me wrong.

But I doubt it.

This is one of the best threads I've seen in a long time and ranks right up there with Rocky's million-signatures-by-June thread.
 
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